<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves --> <!--X-From-R13: Brgev Hvexxhyn <civexxhyNvxv.sv> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:52:07 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 14063.18755.222687.458566#arioch,tky.hut.fi --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 002f01be6ff0$2d181620$870a50a6#enterprise,xlconnect.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00631.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00632.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00651.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00650.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00630">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00630">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00630">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Petri Virkkula <<A HREF="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:18:43 +0200 (EET)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> >>>>> "Benjamin" == Benjamin D Wiechel <strycher#toast,net> writes: Benjamin> The difference is, the part that I found rather arrogant was Benjamin> not the not granting of powers, but rather, the arrogance of Benjamin> not even being willing to talk with the person, simply Benjamin> because they logged on as a newbie and identified themselves Benjamin> as a fellow coder/admin. I would not hand out the keys Benjamin> without getting to know the person, but I think it a sore Benjamin> loss to not take the time to even converse with them for the Benjamin> reason that they didn't fit your specific protocol for Benjamin> saying hello. Many players have asked me to grant them wizhood. Usually those players have been either guests or characters that were created less than 5 days ago. After I have explained that we require all wizards to play to their wizhood, or have playing background in our mud (not just in any other mud), they ask me to make an exception because they have lots of experience from other muds. Their requests are usully spoiled when they ask if we are using ROM or Circle as our codebase (our mud is using lpmud codebase). That shows clearly their level of knowledge, especially how much they know about our mud. Perhaps I am arrogant when I start to ignore players when they continue insisting that I should make an exception to our rules. From my point of view such players are more arrogant when they do not know our codebase. Never any knowledgeable "fellow coder/admin" has asked to get wizhood without playing. First of all, such persons do not have time to play much, and more importantly they are already busy in their own muds. Atleast in our mud you have no chance at all to get wizhood if you come just nowhere and claim that you have the knowledge and are already admin in dozen muds. But atleast I have always explained why we have such rules, but too often the response has been whining and bitching. Petri _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00611" HREF="msg00611.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Benjamin D. 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