<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games --> <!--X-From-R13: [negva Q Ejrvgmre <zfrj+Nnaqerj.pzh.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:03:06 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: squWdX600UwJ0RhRM0#andrew,cmu.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.BSF.4.05.9903130030440.454-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:msew+@andrew.cmu.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00580.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00581.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00565.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00580.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00573">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00573">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00573">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Martin C Sweitzer <<A HREF="mailto:msew%2B#andrew,cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:05:39 -0500 (EST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Excerpts from mud-dev: 13-Mar-99 Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games by Matthew Mihaly#best,com > > What things have people used successgully? > > Well, and I don't intend for this to come off flippantly, but what you are > describing is only a problem if a game is so one-dimensional that the only > goals to achieve are levels. I thik the things people have used > successfully are too numerous to detail, but they boil down to making the > game multi-dimensional. > --matt great now we have an N dimmensional game. And we choose the worst case of the guy that has mastered all N dimensions. He has maxLevel in them all. He is the MAN. So what do these people do? Your little quip is that you make the game have so many dimensions that no one can master them all or get to a point that they are bored. People will ALWAYS get to that point. And that is the "elder game". (or they will get to the point where it no longer interesting to "excel in the game" they have done all the N dimensions) What do you do with the people that have mastered it all? Or have done it all either serially or concurrently. Please do list them. It would be nice to have a nice list of things people have done. Either for those maxLevel guys or to make their world N-dimensional. msew _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00580" HREF="msg00580.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00563" HREF="msg00563.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00580.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00581.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Naming and Directories?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00565.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00580.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00573"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00573"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Elder Games</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00537" HREF="msg00537.html">[MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Martin C Sweitzer <a href="mailto:msew+@andrew.cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Fri 12 Mar 1999, 00:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00538" HREF="msg00538.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 12 Mar 1999, 01:23 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00563" HREF="msg00563.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Sat 13 Mar 1999, 08:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00565" HREF="msg00565.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 13 Mar 1999, 08:59 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00573" HREF="msg00573.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Martin C Sweitzer <a href="mailto:msew+@andrew.cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Sun 14 Mar 1999, 01:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00580" HREF="msg00580.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Elder Games</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Sat 13 Mar 1999, 23:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00472" HREF="msg00472.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Fri 19 Feb 1999, 21:02 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00475" HREF="msg00475.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: pet peeves</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 20 Feb 1999, 03:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00487" HREF="msg00487.html">[MUD-Dev] Theories was Re: pet peeves</A></strong>, Wes Connell <a href="mailto:wconnell#eden,com">wconnell#eden,com</a>, Mon 22 Feb 1999, 17:19 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>