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[MUD-Dev] Re: combat
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:29:20 -0800 (PST)
> diablo <diablo#best,com> wrote:
>
> > Assuming I'm playing a sadistic player, why would I not just kill
> > the person?
>
> Usually becasue actually killing another player's character is either
> difficult or involves repurcussions to your character that are
> unwelcome. Quite a bit of fun can be had on the repurcussion side:
>
> -- make the character increasiningly unlucky or difficult to
> advance/play.
This seems like the sort of thing that players term 'unfair' and is
generally accepted by them as unfair.
>
> -- make the character increasingly unable to defend against attacks
> from characters played by that player in the future.
Same as above. It doesn't make sense to say that you'd learn more from
dying to me than I would from killing you. And, if enough time passed
between the combat encounters by players A and B, then presumably (I'm
speaking in in-game terms here) their fighting styles would have shifted
enough so as to make the specific knowledge gained from fighting the other
guy not so valuable anymore.
>
> -- increment some sort of "sin" value which (dependent on threshhold
> value typically) raises some sort of feared threat (eg Island's court
> system).
This one I like.
>
> -- In M59 style, launch revenants against the killer.
I don't know what revenants are, but that sounds pretty arbitrary. I don't
think players like arbitrary. If you couch the "bad-ass, justice-dealing
NPC comes after you" in terms like a court or guards of a city, then
players are mostly willing to accept it.
<much text about combat snipped>
Your proposed combat system does sound interesting from an entirely
different angle than what I was speaking of. I can see how the rush of
trying to avoid getting killed as a several-hundred-hour character is
quite potent. Your system is different enough from mine that I don't have
any of those small doctrinal quibbles with it. In fact as you described it
the only thing I think I wouldn't like is the lack of continuity in
character (basic complaint of mine with perma-death systems I guess). I
like history and to see players play a long time, etc, even if they are
semi-rabid killers. Still, every system has its disadvantages and yours
sounds like a lot of fun.
I was not aware that MUD2 had people sinking hundreds into a character
they could permanently lose. I suppose if players started knowing they
could lose their characters it might be ok, but it's really the sort of
thing I would personally hate as a player, and so it's something I'd
rather not do. (doesn't fit in with my system of combat anyhow)
--matt
- Thread context:
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat, (continued)
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
diablo diablo#best,com, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 22:50 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
J C Lawrence claw#kanga,nu, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 01:04 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
diablo diablo#best,com, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 02:29 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
J C Lawrence claw#kanga,nu, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 05:20 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
diablo diablo#best,com, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 07:30 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
Richard Woolcock KaVir#nospam,dial.pipex.com, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 19:10 GMT
- [MUD-Dev] Re: combat,
Ben Greear greear#cyberhighway,net, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 02:59 GMT
[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage",
Dominic J. Eidson sauron#the-infinite,org, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 10:01 GMT
[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage",
Michael.Willey Michael.Willey#abnamro,com, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 15:02 GMT
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