<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts --> <!--X-From-R13: "Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx" <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:06:03 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 00ee01be3ff8$c3bbd9e0$55e5edd0@dev-18.chilisoft.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00165.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00167.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00165.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00231.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00166">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00166">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00166">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Caliban Tiresias Darklock" <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:01:29 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Ling <K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts >> The theory of player relativity: >> No statistic has meaning without comparison. >> >> How benchmarks are built: >> When no measure of quality is readily provided, a measure of quality will be >> invented >> >> Peek-a-boo: >> If the player cannot see it, it does not exist. > >I feel this contradicts with the previous two. Is that deliberate or am I >missing something? They build on each other. Consider a game which exposes no statistics to the player, and the following applications of the laws. Peek-a-boo: The player cannot see a measure of quality, so he concludes that there is none. Relativity: A measure of quality will only be acceptable if it can be applied to others. Therefore he mentally constructs one or more such measures privately. Benchmarks: He selects one which makes him look good. Others who look good under it support this. It *becomes* the measure of quality by sheer weight of numbers, in the absence of other measures which garner greater support. In such a way, the game now has *obvious* levels, even though someone could have found the existing ones with his pedant and magnifying glass had he wanted to invest the effort. ;) | Caliban Tiresias Darklock caliban#darklock,com | Darklock Communications <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A> | U L T I M A T E U N I V E R S E I S N O T D E A D | 774577496C6C6E457645727355626D4974H -=CABAL::3146=- </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00167.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Levels versus Skills, who uses them and when.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00231.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00166"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00166"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00154" HREF="msg00154.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 01:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00186" HREF="msg00186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 Jan 1999, 04:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 17:58 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00165" HREF="msg00165.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 19:04 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00166" HREF="msg00166.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 20:06 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00231" HREF="msg00231.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 20 Jan 1999, 21:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00234" HREF="msg00234.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 20 Jan 1999, 22:26 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00151" HREF="msg00151.html">[MUD-Dev] Thoughts</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 00:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Thoughts</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Thu 14 Jan 1999, 03:32 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>