<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 00:24:27 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199901090428.UAA95018#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Marcel-1.46-0108211750-0b0Ky&5#catling,demon.nl --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kang</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00098.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00100.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00096.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00101.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00099">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00099">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00099">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:28:23 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:17:50 +0000 (GMT) Marian Griffith<gryphon#iaehv,nl> wrote: > On Thu 07 Jan, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Quoting from >> <A HREF="http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/glimpsehelp.html#sect11">http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/glimpsehelp.html#sect11</A> (slightly >> reformatted): > [everything snipped] > I am absolutely convinced that this is all extremely smart and > wonder- full. But what does it mean? MUD-Dev is archived on the web at Kanga.Nu. The archives are searchable. The problem, per se, is that often the simple searches return too many hits. Search for "skill trees" and you get an unmanagably large set of messages in return. It is useful to be able to narrow the field of search by adding logic to the search pattern, by being able to say what must be present, what must not, what may be present etc. The answer is the ability to do more complex, or "intelligent" searches, which use logic (AND, OR, NOT etc) to phrase a search pattern that (hopefully) matches only what you are interested in. In essence this is the same thing as the '+' and '-' signs with AltaVista, or the "must contain" and "must not contain" fields with HotBot. > I know I am not the brightest light around this list, but would it > by any chance be possible to translate this in something > resembling english, please? Dominic J. Eidson did a good job of the rest, providing examples and such, so I'll leave that bit there. > I understand patterns, though I somehow doubt we are talking about > the same thing here. But simple strings, strings with classes of > characters sets of strings, wild cards and regular expressions.... > Do I need to know about that? Outside of the simple logic patterns that Dominic described, you can also do more complicated expressions called "regular expressions", a (massively useful) thing inherited from Unix. Regular expressions are not trivial to describe usefully, but the following may help: <A HREF="http://www.ludat.lth.se/regexp.html">http://www.ludat.lth.se/regexp.html</A> More simply (ha!), regular expressions allow one to define the exact contents of a match, down to what letters and words may or must or must not be present, in what order, and what may or may not lay between them. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu (Contractor) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00094" HREF="msg00094.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00098.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: From DevMud: Database module</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00096.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00101.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00099"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00099"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00003" HREF="msg00003.html">[MUD-Dev] Info about different skill systems</A></strong>, Emil Eifrem <a href="mailto:emil#prophecy,lu">emil#prophecy,lu</a>, Sat 02 Jan 1999, 02:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">[MUD-Dev] Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Info about different skill systems)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 07 Jan 1999, 11:29 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00094" HREF="msg00094.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 08 Jan 1999, 22:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00096" HREF="msg00096.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></strong>, Dominic J. Eidson <a href="mailto:sauron#the-infinite,org">sauron#the-infinite,org</a>, Fri 08 Jan 1999, 23:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00099" HREF="msg00099.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 09 Jan 1999, 08:24 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00101" HREF="msg00101.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Intelligent WebGlimpse archive searching at Kanga.Nu</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 09 Jan 1999, 23:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00089" HREF="msg00089.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Info about different skill systems</A></strong>, Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#ibm,net">mikclrk#ibm,net</a>, Fri 08 Jan 1999, 20:16 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00024" HREF="msg00024.html">[MUD-Dev] Info about different skill systems</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 03 Jan 1999, 08:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00026" HREF="msg00026.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Info about different skill systems</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 03 Jan 1999, 18:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>