<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:49:30 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199901120106.RAA10814#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 034401be3d33$0d065da0$4e82a6c3@hell --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00108.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00112.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00105.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00113.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00109">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00109">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00109">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:06:24 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:46:35 -0000 Kylotan <kylotan#globalnet,co.uk> wrote: > Secondly, real-life studies indicate that people tend to navigate > by using waypoints, such as landmarks or settlements, rather than > a mathematical consideration of the shortest path, especially when > such a consideration only makes a small difference overall. Many > people will take a slightly longer route if it lessens the chances > of getting lost, for example. Also, should the average NPC know > enough about all the interposing areas such that he or she can > make such an accurate mental calculation? Therefore, given that > areas tend to correlate highly with what might be waypoints on a > mud, this could also be viewed as an improvement to NPC AI :-) Given the fact that many MUD worlds are topologically a single long road with a variety of self contained (ie not or barely interconnected) blobs of "areas" hung off it, this approach has some really good real-world justifications. The processing loop then becomes a simple (simplified): Is target in same area as me? Yes? Plot and follow path to target. No? Plot and follow path to highway. Is target on highway? Yes? Follow highway in that direction. No? Plot and follow path to target area. Plot and follow path in target area to target. A lady who used to live in the same apartment complex as me had a simple way of navigating: First she went from where ever she was out to the local north/south highway, and then went either up or down there to the appropriate cross road and then turned back in. It didn't matter if her destination was only a two blocks away from where she was and if the higway was 4 miles away -- her knowledge of every location was "how to get there from the highway". She was very earnest in her dedication to this solution, and very very aware of its infallibility. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu (Contractor) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00105" HREF="msg00105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Kylotan" <kylotan#globalnet,co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00108.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Levels versus Skills, who uses them and when.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00112.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc (long)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00113.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00109"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00109"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00074" HREF="msg00074.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, David Bennett <a href="mailto:ddt#discworld,imaginary.com">ddt#discworld,imaginary.com</a>, Thu 07 Jan 1999, 00:08 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00072" HREF="msg00072.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Wed 06 Jan 1999, 23:38 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00073" HREF="msg00073.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 06 Jan 1999, 23:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00105" HREF="msg00105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, Kylotan <a href="mailto:kylotan#globalnet,co.uk">kylotan#globalnet,co.uk</a>, Mon 11 Jan 1999, 07:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00109" HREF="msg00109.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 12 Jan 1999, 06:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, quzah [softhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Tue 12 Jan 1999, 06:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00114" HREF="msg00114.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Tue 12 Jan 1999, 15:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00120" HREF="msg00120.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 13 Jan 1999, 00:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00126" HREF="msg00126.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mobile movement</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Wed 13 Jan 1999, 01:33 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>