<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 -->
<!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Admin skills -->
<!--X-From-R13: Vny Pynpx <unyNzbbf.zy.bet> -->
<!--X-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:35:35 -0800 -->
<!--X-Message-Id: 19990127030128.33802#moos,ml.org -->
<!--X-Content-Type: text/plain -->
<!--X-Reference: 005d01be4894$713793e0$55e5edd0@dev-18.chilisoft.com -->
<!--X-Reference: Pine.HPP.3.91.990125160254.1326A-100000#emu,micro.ti.com -->
<!--X-Reference: 4.1.19990125190938.03c2b340#pop,darklock.com -->
<!--X-Head-End-->
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Admin skills</title>
<!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" -->
<link rev="made" href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">
</head>
<body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff"
text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000">
<font size="+4" color="#804040">
<strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong>
</font>
<br>
[ <a href="../">Other Periods</a>
| <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
| <a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
]
<br clear=all><hr>
<!--X-Body-Begin-->
<!--X-User-Header-->
<!--X-User-Header-End-->
<!--X-TopPNI-->
Date:
[ <a href="msg00303.html">Previous</a>
| <a href="msg00305.html">Next</a>
]
Thread:
[ <a href="msg00279.html">Previous</a>
| <a href="msg00258.html">Next</a>
]
Index:
[ <A HREF="author.html#00304">Author</A>
| <A HREF="#00304">Date</A>
| <A HREF="thread.html#00304">Thread</A>
]
<!--X-TopPNI-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-->
<!--X-Subject-Header-Begin-->
<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Admin skills</H1>
<HR>
<!--X-Subject-Header-End-->
<!--X-Head-of-Message-->
<UL>
<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Admin skills</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Hal Black <<A HREF="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 03:01:28 -0500</LI>
<LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
</UL>
<!--X-Head-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin-->
<HR>
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End-->
<!--X-Body-of-Message-->
<PRE>
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:24:22PM -0800, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
> On 04:04 PM 1/25/99 -0600, I personally witnessed Holly Sommer jumping up
> to say:
> >
> >But, being able to manage your own code is an IMPERATIVE part of running
> >the game!
>
> You still can. You just don't have to mess around for three weeks trying to
> get the server to compile. The sysadmin does the initial build, and then
> you're on your own. But at least you know all the variables and paths in
> the makefile are correct, which is certainly a non-trivial benefit.
I agree, also, certain platforms have quirks in the C compiler and runtime
environment that the system operator will know much more about than the MUD
administrator. Indeed, it could be argued that the mud admin shouldn't have
to suffer through a lot of these porting details. And if the mud admin
does need to make low-level modifications to the code, it's a lot easier to
figure out and work around these issues when you've seen it done once and have
somewhere from which to start.
Like at work today, I spent a couple of hours discovering that MS Visual C++
assumes stdin to be a text file by default (and therefore stops reading when
it gets 0x1a character). This can make a mess when trying to port code that
uses pipes to transfer binary data. While I accept that there will always be
incompatibilities between platforms, this is not the kind of thing I'd want
to deal with if I were trying to run a mud; I'd rather let an expert on that
specific system deal with the gory system-specific details and let me
concentrate my efforts on writing the game.
</PRE>
<!--X-Body-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-End-->
<!--X-Follow-Ups-->
<HR>
<!--X-Follow-Ups-End-->
<!--X-References-->
<UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>:
<UL>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00256" HREF="msg00256.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Caliban Tiresias Darklock" <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00267" HREF="msg00267.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Holly Sommer <hsommer#micro,ti.com></LI></UL></LI>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00275" HREF="msg00275.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI>
</UL></LI></UL>
<!--X-References-End-->
<!--X-BotPNI-->
<UL>
<LI>Prev by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00303.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: combat</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00305.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Design doc - Combat</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Prev by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00279.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00258.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: List "peerage"</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Index(es):
<UL>
<LI><A HREF="index.html#00304"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI>
<LI><A HREF="thread.html#00304"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
<!--X-BotPNI-End-->
<!--X-User-Footer-->
<!--X-User-Footer-End-->
<ul><li>Thread context:
<BLOCKQUOTE><UL>
<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
<ul compact>
<ul compact>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00267" HREF="msg00267.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 22:06 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00274" HREF="msg00274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 01:32 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00275" HREF="msg00275.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 03:28 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00279" HREF="msg00279.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 05:51 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00304" HREF="msg00304.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Admin skills</A></strong>,
Hal Black <a href="mailto:hal#moos,ml.org">hal#moos,ml.org</a>, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 06:35 GMT
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</ul>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00258" HREF="msg00258.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: List "peerage"</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 19:47 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00270" HREF="msg00270.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: List "peerage"</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 22:40 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Quzah [softhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Mon 25 Jan 1999, 23:57 GMT
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: list "peerage"</A></strong>,
Matthew D. Fuller <a href="mailto:fullermd#futuresouth,com">fullermd#futuresouth,com</a>, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 06:10 GMT
</LI>
</ul>
</LI>
</UL></BLOCKQUOTE>
</ul>
<hr>
<center>
[ <a href="../">Other Periods</a>
| <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
| <a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
]
</center>
<hr>
</body>
</html>