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<LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear &lt;<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>&gt;</LI>
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&gt; I would bet that more than half of current mud players couldn't make 
&gt; a symlink if their life depended upon it, let alone a registry 
&gt; change.  Installation of a client should be totally automated.

I got the installation for my java appliction down to:  download, unzip,
type &lt;java path&gt;\java hegemon

That aint so bad...but of course they would have to install the JDK.  I
found it was almost pittifully easy to install it as well.  Basically
unzip it and it's good to go.

However, I'm not aware of any single person downloading my client, even
though it's quite good.

The saving grace is that Java runs as an applet with very little tweaking.

It seems ppl will live with longer download times and limited abilities
(ie you can't save you're aliases/actions etc) in applet mode.  Still, if
it gets used at all, it is in this manner..

I expected the opposite..and the applet thing was even a last minute hack
I did to help out an imm who uses a mac (ie life sucks and JDK's are hard
to come by)


I think ppl have become extremely lazy about software installation..if it
doesn't have a wizard and automatically download itself...who wants it!

Still, I write for them as much as myself..so gotta start thinking more
like them....

Sorry for that rambling verbage, I love just being able to set an
environment variable or two, put it in my path, or use cool command line
args....and so few understand their beauty!

Ben the disgruntled.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00593" HREF="msg00593.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00596" HREF="msg00596.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 03:24 GMT
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Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com">Jon.A.Lambert#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 05:41 GMT
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Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 26 Feb 1998, 06:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00634" HREF="msg00634.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Java and Javascript</A></strong>, 
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