<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5? --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:55:07 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9801251749.8rd8@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00311.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00314.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00312">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00312">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00312">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 25 Jan 98 10:49:53 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Caliban:] [Sorry for the incomplete quoted lines - they got chopped off.] :So you don't consider Java just as proprietary as NSAPI and ASP, even though S :repeatedly lied and cheated in its presentation of the technology? Lets ignore politics here (and I haven't the faintest idea of what you are going on about anyway). From my point of view, I have official specs on the Java language and libraries. That allows me to write portable programs, that will run on UNIX machines, Windows machines, BeBoxes, etc. *That* is what makes Java worth considering in any kind of project that involves networks and communications. :Well, considering I was trying to come up with solutions that would be more fe :with the release of the Netscape source, I don't think platform-independence h :place in the list. Huh? Netscape runs on lots of platforms. Using it doesn't necessarily break any platform-independent issues, so I think platform-independence is a very good thing to have in a list of desireable attributes. :JavaScript is not designed to do heavy-duty programming. Neither were most MUD :programming languages. The advantage I see here are that people already know i :value outside the MUD, and the developer can worry about other things instead :building a language to work in. Of course, people will complain that it isn't :compiled or even tokenised and how can you take any interpreted language serio :anyway? That attribute of JavaScript is precisely why I think it is a poor choice for a MUD server programming language. Here I'll present some opinions of mine. Learning a new well-designed language is easy (learning some of the god-awful scripting languages with excessive amounts of escapes, wierd syntaxes, etc. is not easy). Implementing an interpreter for a well-designed language is easy. Yes, easy. The stress is on well-designed. :True enough. In which case, write a C compiler. Any decent CompSci graduate, :incidentally, already has. ;> God, I hope not! What a horrible thing to force on the poor students trying to learn what programming languages are all about, and what the important things about writing compilers are. Pick a decent language, without so many levels of interpretation and goofy rules. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Socket programming - platform specific</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00312"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00312"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00326" HREF="msg00326.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 01:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00328" HREF="msg00328.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 08:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00452" HREF="msg00452.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] 3D graphics (Was: The impact of the web on muds)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Fri 13 Feb 1998, 23:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00314" HREF="msg00314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Socket programming - platform specific</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Mon 26 Jan 1998, 04:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 07:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients based on Netscape 5?</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 24 Jan 1998, 18:19 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>