<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds --> <!--X-From-R13: [vpunry Vburafrr <zvpunryNfcnegn.znvafgernz.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:43:12 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 34CB7C1D.1D96C941#sparta,mainstream.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 9801251738.8rd3@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00316.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00318.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00315.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00316.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00317">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00317">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00317">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Michael Hohensee <<A HREF="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:53:33 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:michael#corinth,mainstream.net">michael#corinth,mainstream.net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Chris Gray wrote: > > On the technical issues, yes the couple of Meg for graphics and sound verus > the 1K or so for text does sound like a big difference. What I had always > envisioned is a MUD which requires a CD on the client machine. The big > stuff (models of the objects, monsters, etc.; textures, sounds, music > scores) would be on that CD, and the client engine would generate the > multimedia show from that and from much smaller dynamic stuff sent from > the server (possibly in the form of some kind of script). Think of the > scripts for a play, that say in very general terms what actions are to > happen, what lines actors say, what the music score is, etc. That's the > kind of information I see the server dynamically creating and shipping > to the client. Alternatively, graphics could be sent in the form of ascii code which describes how a ray-tracer or other rendering engine on the client side is to draw the scene. See my webpage (perpetually unfinished) for an example of what could be done. It only takes a few seconds for the ray-tracer to draw a good little scene from any viewpoint within the world. It wouldn't be a purely graphical mud, but it'd give you the consistency you're looking for. Incidentally, such a system would quite neatly solve the problem of which objects should be shown to a player in a co-ordinate based world (just don't reflect light rays which travel more than X units away from you). Heh, maybe we should work on optimizing a ray-tracer. :) -- Michael Hohensee michael#mainstream,net <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9025/">http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/9025/</A> Finger me for my PGP Public Key, or use: <A HREF="http://sparta.mainstream.net/michael/pgpkey.txt">http://sparta.mainstream.net/michael/pgpkey.txt</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00317"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00317"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00292" HREF="msg00292.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 23 Jan 1998, 07:04 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00296" HREF="msg00296.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 23 Jan 1998, 15:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00309" HREF="msg00309.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 07:11 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 18:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00317" HREF="msg00317.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 22:43 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#online-alchemy,com">mike#online-alchemy,com</a>, Sun 25 Jan 1998, 20:05 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00321" HREF="msg00321.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 26 Jan 1998, 15:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00329" HREF="msg00329.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 12:27 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00330" HREF="msg00330.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The impact of the web on muds</A></strong>, Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Tue 27 Jan 1998, 13:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>