<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:21:59 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9802180215.8uk4@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00521.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00523.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00514.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00541.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00522">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00522">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00522">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 17 Feb 98 19:15:48 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Caliban:] :I can see both sides of this issue. I have a healthy aversion to canned :code and downloaded components, but sometimes you have to ask yourself why :you ought to build something someone else already did. The major question :is whether the benefit outweighs the liability -- for example, if you build :your client in Java, you inherit any security bug that might be found in :Java. You have to ask yourself whether that's a risk worth taking; do you :want the software done and out the door faster, or do you want it :bulletproof? Time is a commodity, but so is reliability... and when you use :someone else's framework, you're investing a lot of trust in that person. The security issues with Java are normally aimed at protecting the server from the client. So, typically they are not a concern for users of the client software. The same with a MUD. True, a Java application can write to your local disk, etc., but so can any other piece of someone else's code that you run as a client. At least with Java, you have the protection that Java offers to your server, which is likely better than what most people could come up with by themselves. :When I last installed the JDK, I had to manually enter several environment :variables and registry keys. [snippage] : I think it's a UNIX thing. Nope. I downloaded the JDK (1.0, since we still have the old OS), for HP-UX and installed it. I had to decide where to put it, then unpack the archive. That's it. I don't recall even having to set a CLASSPATH. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00541" HREF="msg00541.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jon Leonard <jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00521.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00523.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Clients</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00541.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00522"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00522"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00558" HREF="msg00558.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Mon 23 Feb 1998, 01:37 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00562" HREF="msg00562.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The MLI Project</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Mon 23 Feb 1998, 18:24 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00347" HREF="msg00347.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 15:50 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 18 Feb 1998, 03:06 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00522" HREF="msg00522.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 18 Feb 1998, 09:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00541" HREF="msg00541.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Java and Javascript</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</a>, Fri 20 Feb 1998, 16:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">MetaVoice, MetaFont</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 09:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00348" HREF="msg00348.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MetaVoice, MetaFont</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 17:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00351" HREF="msg00351.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] MetaVoice, MetaFont</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Fri 30 Jan 1998, 18:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>