<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire) --> <!--X-From-R13: "Brevpbyb Rv[begr" <pubxrNfvevhf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:31:19 -0800 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 00ce01be1e43$4db4f6e0$b27f14cf#gric,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:choke#sirius,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00893.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00895.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00893.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00895.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00894">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00894">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00894">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Pericolo DiMorte" <<A HREF="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:30:02 -0800</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Well, I apologize. I thought *you* were arguing that there were not 6 neighbors and doing so in an unkindly way against a poster who I see as being a well informed and constructive poster. Consider my comment retracted. ----- Original Message ----- From: quzah [sotfhome] <quzah#softhome,net> To: <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 2:14 PM Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire) >From: Pericolo DiMorte <choke#sirius,com> >Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:06 AM >Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire) > > >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: quzah [sotfhome] <quzah#softhome,net> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 10:32 PM >>Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping >> >> >>>From: James Wilson <jwilson#rochester,rr.com> on Tuesday, December 01, 1998 >9:39 >>>PM >>>Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping >>> >>> >>>>On Tue, 01 Dec 1998, Jon Leonard wrote: >>>>>On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 07:51:24PM -0500, James Wilson wrote: >>> >>>[snip] >>>>>Would you have been happier if I'd drawn my hexes like this? >>>>> >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ >>>>> | 0,2 | 1,2 | 2,2 | 3,2 | >>>>> | | | | | >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>> | 0,1 | 1,1 | 2,1 | 3,1 | >>>>> | | | | | >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>> / \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>>| 0,0 | 1,0 | 2,0 | 3,0 | >>>>>| | | | | >>>>> \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>> \ / \ / \ / \ / >>>>> >>>>>Those are really hexagons... And the six neighbors have the coordinate >>>>>deltas I specified. The fact that they don't look pretty in ASCII graphics >>>>>says little about the math. >>> >>>[snip] >>>>nevertheless there are eight neighbors of each node, not six. perhaps he >>>doesn't >>>>care about that. >>>> >>>>James >>> >>> >>>I'm not sure I follow here. Where are the extra two neighbors that only you >>>see? >> >>look, I don't mind seeing an inordinately large number of fairly uninitiated >posts >>by you, quzah - but can you at least be courteous to people who *do* contribute >>to the list constructively? > ><sarcasm>Forgive me, father, for I have sinned.</sarcasm> >> >>This is the same hex system that PSL Empire used in its final incarnation, by >>the way. He took what was essentially a 2d array and shifted every even row by >one >>so that the displayed map looked like this >> >>- 000000000000 >>- 112233445566 >>- 00 X X X X X X >>- 01 X X X X X X >>- 02 X X X X X X >>- 03 X X X X X X >>- 04 X X X X X X >>- 05 X X X X X X >>- 06 X X X X X X >> >>Looks like crap with this stupid font. Oh well. >> >>Anyhow for example: 2,3 has 6 neighbors which include the 4 hexes at the >diagonals of each 'cell' plus the one above and one >>below skipping a row. >> >>By the way, I wonder what Peter Langston is up to these days? > > >Thanks for your instructive reply. I did not see the other two neighbors. I >suppose not all of are as brilliant as you are all of the time. When I was >seeing it, it was a hex, not a box scooted over. From my vantage point, it >only had six neighbors, not eight. I suppose next time, as not to clutter >up the list, I'll just not bother posting, and remain in the dark; not as >enlightened, but not as rebuked. Enjoy your lack of my clutter from now on. > >Quzah. > > >-- >MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. > > </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00895" HREF="msg00895.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> James Wilson <jwilson#rochester,rr.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00893.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00895.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00893.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00895.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00894"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00894"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00889" HREF="msg00889.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong>, Pericolo DiMorte <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Wed 02 Dec 1998, 18:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00892" HREF="msg00892.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 02 Dec 1998, 22:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00896" HREF="msg00896.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Personalities...</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 03 Dec 1998, 05:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00893" HREF="msg00893.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 02 Dec 1998, 22:15 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00894" HREF="msg00894.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong>, Pericolo DiMorte <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Wed 02 Dec 1998, 22:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00895" HREF="msg00895.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping (example from PSL empire)</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Thu 03 Dec 1998, 00:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00886" HREF="msg00886.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 02 Dec 1998, 06:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00878" HREF="msg00878.html">[MUD-Dev] Hex-grid mapping</A></strong>, Matthew R. Sheahan <a href="mailto:chaos#crystal,palace.net">chaos#crystal,palace.net</a>, Tue 01 Dec 1998, 07:43 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00879" HREF="msg00879.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hex-grid mapping</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Tue 01 Dec 1998, 08:16 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>