<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign) --> <!--X-From-R13: "Ybfgre, Dncu" <exbfgreNbevtva.rn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:15:01 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 11A17AA2B9EAD111BCEA00A0C9B41793EDC18B#forest,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World </title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00282.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00284.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00293.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00334.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00283">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00283">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00283">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:09:24 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > -----Original Message----- > From: Vadim Tkachenko [<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>] > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 7:36 PM > To: mud-dev#kanga,nu > Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D > esign) > > > Koster, Raph wrote: > > Strict: play that obeys the intent of the rules created by the games' > > designers. > > Somehow, makes me think about the quotation from one of > Soviet SF books: > > Glossary > -------- > ... > Basilisk, n.: Creature which allegedly turns into stone everything it > looks at. Doesn't exist. > ... > > I remember you said it yourself earlier, didn't you? True. :) Nobody is going to play exactly the way that the designers intended. However, there IS a line to cross regarding how badly the intent is distorted. I don't know that anyone can point to where it is, but I bet anyone who's run a game has felt it when it was crossed. :) -Raph </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00334" HREF="msg00334.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00282.html">[MUD-Dev] Lengthy Palace study</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00284.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Bruce Sterling on Virtual Community goals</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00293.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hacks/Diablo/etc (was: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign))</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00334.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00283"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00283"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Brandon A Downey <a href="mailto:badowney#sprynet,com">badowney#sprynet,com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 08:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00350" HREF="msg00350.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Vladimir Prelovac <a href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 13:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00382" HREF="msg00382.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 23 Oct 1998, 04:00 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hacks/Diablo/etc (was: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign))</A></strong>, quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 07:13 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00334" HREF="msg00334.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 03:23 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00282" HREF="msg00282.html">[MUD-Dev] Lengthy Palace study</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:13 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 15:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00278" HREF="msg00278.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 00:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>