11 Mar, 2011, Cratylus wrote in the 222nd comment:
Kjwah said:
you don't have thirty grand to spend on a porn star.
protip: being in a pr0n doesn't make her a porn "star"
12 Mar, 2011, sankoachaea wrote in the 223rd comment:
The coloring is to emphasize the significance of a point - or said another way, to clearly indicate which elements of the post are both significant and relevant.
I saw a 17 year old kid in a $180 suit in a subway the other day, he looked like Louise XIV in an explosive-proof bomb suit. My brother's girlfriend came to dinner with a LV 'purse' and treated it like you would a disposable camera. They're priced between $1200-$4000+ each, abd she'll probably have a different one in a week or two anyway.
Some things might seem more significant because of how you see them. The lawyers are happenstance. The point is what the Diku license *does* say and what those words mean. That's all I've really contributed to. Go back and read the lawyer post with the colors and remember the bolded point is probably more significant than the mention of lawyers.
Edit: Choosing to ignore is tantamount to choosing to be ignorant IMO - I disdain the choice so I'll reward it with letting you be ignorant. Find your own lawyer friends.
I saw a 17 year old kid in a $180 suit in a subway the other day, he looked like Louise XIV in an explosive-proof bomb suit. My brother's girlfriend came to dinner with a LV 'purse' and treated it like you would a disposable camera. They're priced between $1200-$4000+ each, abd she'll probably have a different one in a week or two anyway.
Some things might seem more significant because of how you see them. The lawyers are happenstance. The point is what the Diku license *does* say and what those words mean. That's all I've really contributed to. Go back and read the lawyer post with the colors and remember the bolded point is probably more significant than the mention of lawyers.
Edit: Choosing to ignore is tantamount to choosing to be ignorant IMO - I disdain the choice so I'll reward it with letting you be ignorant. Find your own lawyer friends.
12 Mar, 2011, Kjwah wrote in the 224th comment:
12 Mar, 2011, Orrin wrote in the 225th comment:
sankoachaea said:
The point is what the Diku license *does* say and what those words mean. That's all I've really contributed to.
You haven't contributed anything though. People have been making the same argument as you for years and it's been irrelevant since at least 1995.
Oh but it's not profit if you spend it on server costs, blah blah blah. We all know that's one way to interpret the license just as we all know that the authors intended it to mean something different.
12 Mar, 2011, Ssolvarain wrote in the 226th comment:
Orrin said:
that the authors intended it to mean something different.
That dikumud be free to use by users and players, free of commercialization and charge until the earth explodes in nuclear holocaust.
"Just for the disk" and "just for the server cost" are interchangeable. Don't solicit a donation to keep your mud open when there are free alternatives.
If you can't afford the bandwidth to download DikuMUD, then you need to find a free alternative.
If you can't afford the server to run DikuMUD, then you need to find a free alternative.
I think it's all quite simple. DikuMUD is trying to keep things free for the admins and users. Try to think of how they felt during the whole Medevia bit.
12 Mar, 2011, sankoachaea wrote in the 227th comment:
I sort of don't know exactly what happened with Medievia, but I know I didn't like what was going on and said, "I'm not going to play this MUD."
That was a long time ago, and I just got an e-mail from them on a less-used account inviting me to come play now that they are really old or something.
What did happen/is the status?
Edit: Sorry for going completely off-topic. You brought up Medievia though :)
That was a long time ago, and I just got an e-mail from them on a less-used account inviting me to come play now that they are really old or something.
What did happen/is the status?
Edit: Sorry for going completely off-topic. You brought up Medievia though :)
12 Mar, 2011, Ssolvarain wrote in the 228th comment:
sankoachaea said:
What did happen/is the status?
Things like this that never really go anywhere. Sort of like license discussion, except free of the crazy analogies.
Med knows they screwed up. Diku knows they screwed up. There's not much left to do or discuss except sue the #$%^ out of them, but that's most likely not going to happen.
12 Mar, 2011, Vigud wrote in the 229th comment:
12 Mar, 2011, sankoachaea wrote in the 230th comment:
So it's pretty much where it was when I left it.. hrm.
To celebrate 20 years running, they are calling all players up to this point 'founders' and players who start playing after this point (or a few weeks ago) will never have th chance to be called 'founders'…
..but what do you call the Diku team?
To celebrate 20 years running, they are calling all players up to this point 'founders' and players who start playing after this point (or a few weeks ago) will never have th chance to be called 'founders'…
..but what do you call the Diku team?
12 Mar, 2011, Ssolvarain wrote in the 231st comment:
Visionaries.
12 Mar, 2011, KaVir wrote in the 232nd comment:
sankoachaea said:
To celebrate 20 years running,
So it's still a couple of years off then?
I doubt anything will change in another two years. In fact, I suspect the stink will follow Medievia for the rest of its online life.
13 Mar, 2011, Runter wrote in the 233rd comment:
Everyone knows medievia didn't make any profits. They were just offsetting costs for buying hardware, paying salaries, advertising, and payment processors/support.
13 Mar, 2011, Cratylus wrote in the 234th comment:
Runter said:
Everyone knows medievia didn't make any profits. They were just offsetting costs for buying hardware, paying salaries, advertising, and payment processors/support.
Bravo, sir.
13 Mar, 2011, sankoachaea wrote in the 235th comment:
Runter said:
Everyone knows medievia didn't make any profits. They were just offsetting costs for buying hardware, paying salaries, advertising, and payment processors/support.
Gigidy. :lol:
Except, the violation is related to removing credits and license information. Also, there's a caveat with salaries as far as the license is concerned, so even my "profit argument" wouldn't support them in this case. GL hf.
Edit: Posted. I bolded the two points I found interesting..
vryce@medievia.com said:
After 20 years of uptime Medievia is finally getting ready to go public with its new version!
This includes a Facebook game to connect to Medievia!
If you have not played in a while please log in and check out all of the new features. They will astound you! What can a text game do that no other game can do? Come find out!
All old players are known as 'Founders'. There will never be a new founder. You must log in soon and reclaim your old character to be a Founder. Type HELP FOUNDER when you log in to understand what this means for you. Playing has never been as easy as we have a special custom Medievia client for Windows based off of MudMaster 2K that can be downloaded from:
http://www.medievia.com/connecting.html
- If you enjoyed zones come check out the amazing EXPLORATION feature.
- If you loved SHIPS before come see what we have done!
- If CPK was your thing you must come check out BLOODSWORDS.
- If you want to see something truly different visit the new UNDEROCEAN.
- If you want to be forever known as a FOUNDER, come log in today.
We thank you for playing Medievia in the past and implore you to come check out what we have done. We have been busy!
We are getting ready to go multi-planet - multi-server and be able to handle hundreds of thousands of players. We are going Google-sized! Every planet will be unique and owned by a player. The world has never seen such a thing, a nearly infinite-sized game space, nearly infinite-depth of game play, and nearly infinite in time as it will never close down, not until perhaps people stop reading and chatting and that cannot happen. Plus, on top of that, it's Free!
We hope that in another 10 years every English-speaking gamer will know about Medievia and have checked it out. We hope you log in soon so you will be known as an original FOUNDER.
Will the magic of Medievia still work for you? Log in soon and find out.
Medievia will last forever, always growing, always improving, always there for you to make friends.
We have been in Beta mode for years as we prepared. We have a small playerbase but we are about to open to the public. Before we spend money advertising the game, and before we open up our Facebook app, we wanted to contact the original Medievia players, the Founders, YOU!
Log in today!
-Vryce
We hope that in another 10 years every English-speaking gamer will know about Medievia and have checked it out. We hope you log in soon so you will be known as an original FOUNDER.
Will the magic of Medievia still work for you? Log in soon and find out.
Medievia will last forever, always growing, always improving, always there for you to make friends.
We have been in Beta mode for years as we prepared. We have a small playerbase but we are about to open to the public. Before we spend money advertising the game, and before we open up our Facebook app, we wanted to contact the original Medievia players, the Founders, YOU!
Log in today!
-Vryce[/quote[
This includes a Facebook game to connect to Medievia!
If you have not played in a while please log in and check out all of the new features. They will astound you! What can a text game do that no other game can do? Come find out!
All old players are known as 'Founders'. There will never be a new founder. You must log in soon and reclaim your old character to be a Founder. Type HELP FOUNDER when you log in to understand what this means for you. Playing has never been as easy as we have a special custom Medievia client for Windows based off of MudMaster 2K that can be downloaded from:
http://www.medievia.com/connecting.html
- If you enjoyed zones come check out the amazing EXPLORATION feature.
- If you loved SHIPS before come see what we have done!
- If CPK was your thing you must come check out BLOODSWORDS.
- If you want to see something truly different visit the new UNDEROCEAN.
- If you want to be forever known as a FOUNDER, come log in today.
We thank you for playing Medievia in the past and implore you to come check out what we have done. We have been busy!
We are getting ready to go multi-planet - multi-server and be able to handle hundreds of thousands of players. We are going Google-sized! Every planet will be unique and owned by a player. The world has never seen such a thing, a nearly infinite-sized game space, nearly infinite-depth of game play, and nearly infinite in time as it will never close down, not until perhaps people stop reading and chatting and that cannot happen. Plus, on top of that, it's Free!
We hope that in another 10 years every English-speaking gamer will know about Medievia and have checked it out. We hope you log in soon so you will be known as an original FOUNDER.
Will the magic of Medievia still work for you? Log in soon and find out.
Medievia will last forever, always growing, always improving, always there for you to make friends.
We have been in Beta mode for years as we prepared. We have a small playerbase but we are about to open to the public. Before we spend money advertising the game, and before we open up our Facebook app, we wanted to contact the original Medievia players, the Founders, YOU!
Log in today!
-Vryce
We hope that in another 10 years every English-speaking gamer will know about Medievia and have checked it out. We hope you log in soon so you will be known as an original FOUNDER.
Will the magic of Medievia still work for you? Log in soon and find out.
Medievia will last forever, always growing, always improving, always there for you to make friends.
We have been in Beta mode for years as we prepared. We have a small playerbase but we are about to open to the public. Before we spend money advertising the game, and before we open up our Facebook app, we wanted to contact the original Medievia players, the Founders, YOU!
Log in today!
-Vryce[/quote[
13 Mar, 2011, Runter wrote in the 236th comment:
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Except, the violation is related to removing credits and license information. Also, there's a caveat with salaries as far as the license is concerned, so even my "profit argument" wouldn't support them in this case. GL hf.
What? The reason there's such a thing as medthevia fame is because they were a commercial company making money using a license that clearly said they weren't supposed to. "The violation" is a bad way to even put it. How about one of the many violations?
Also, I dunno what caveat you're talking about. As far as The Law is concerned, paying salaries and all of those other business expenses are the same thing. By your definition of profit as long as the organization is cash flow neutral there's no license infringement. Which I obviously disagree with. Yes, I know, you seem to think there's a special case for server rental vs something else, but there's really not.
13 Mar, 2011, Ssolvarain wrote in the 237th comment:
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Cheer! The Medievia Facebook Game is almost ready! 5:25 PM Mar 9th via Facebook
I should think the Diku team could at least claim a violation of rights, here.
13 Mar, 2011, KaVir wrote in the 238th comment:
sankoachaea said:
Edit: Posted. I bolded the two points I found interesting..
vryce@medievia.com said:
After 20 years of uptime
They're based on Merc 1.0, which was released on 18th December 1992.
In fact, it was actually Michael "Highlander" Smith who started Medievia, and that was in February 1993. He recruited Anthony "Balor" Rowley and Michael "Vryce" Krause to assist him, and on 1st April 1993 they opened to the public. In September 1993 the staff had a major falling out, and Vryce was given the boot - but he somehow managed to return and seize full control of the mud.
I guess that wouldn't look so good on the official announcement though.
13 Mar, 2011, sankoachaea wrote in the 239th comment:
KaVir said:
In fact, it was actually Michael "Highlander" Smith who started Medievia, and that was in February 1993. He recruited Anthony "Balor" Rowley and Michael "Vryce" Krause to assist him, and on 1st April 1993 they opened to the public. In September 1993 the staff had a major falling out, and Vryce was given the boot - but he somehow managed to return and seize full control of the mud..
Medievia - the only MUD sporting an out of game plot more intriguing than the game's actual storyline. Now I'm picturing Vryce as some creepy Machiavellian villain.
On that note, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Michael Krause isn't much of a coder..
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Runter said:
By your definition of profit as long as the organization is cash flow neutral there's no license infringement. Which I obviously disagree with. Yes, I know, you seem to think there's a special case for server rental vs something else, but there's really not.
No.
Edit: quotes/fail
15 Mar, 2011, Rarva.Riendf wrote in the 240th comment:
Anyone knows how Tyche did the % differences ? I wish to test how far I have gone from the basic rom compared to medieva :p
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