You're right. Samson did do a lot of the day-to-day "chores" if you will. That will probably have far less impact on the direction of MudBytes than the bitter taste left in our mouthes after all of this is over. In many ways, I share Samson's sentiments. Hopefully things change for the better with the implementation of better rules and MudBytes continues to be a place that makes us Admins WANT to donate their time to.

You're taking to wildly assuming the intention of my posts. I almost added a disclaimer on my post that I wasn't attacking you or insinuating that you were ban-trigger-happy. I was pointing out that this is the mentality and the form of administration that Noplex was advocating.



Oh. My. God. Samson, how many times do I have to repeat that I don't advocate that a site's staff has no right to participate in their own forums. I know I've said this, about as clearly as I can, at least five times, spread both across TMC and MudBytes? Seriously, I'm genuinely asking, how many times do I have to repeat that before you get that through your head? Do I need to track down everytime I've said that and paste links? Do you just selectively filter what's convenient to you? I'm really at a loss, because time and time again, the only position in regards to that I've advocated is that staff need to watch what they say, because when they speak, they speak on behalf of the site that Administer. I've never once said that they shouldn't.

If you are so convinced that I advocate that response, how about I post every link to where I've denied that, and you search in vain to find where I have. I promise you it will take image forgery to produce something like that.



PROVE that Cratylus is guilty of libel and defamation. The burden of proof in a slander or libel case rests on the defendant. If I say something about you, and you can't prove it untrue and that it wasn't intended to harm your character. I've seen nothing that satisfies me that Cratylus is guilty of that. I've seen nothing that satisfies me that he isn't, I've maintained a rather undecided viewpoint on this. And I have no problem with controversial views on factual statistics, but Scandum was using those stats to support a racist and sexist viewpoint. Yes, an average man might be better at some physical labor than an average woman, just as an average woman certainly has natural talents that would be better than an average man, but that statement alone has nothing wrong with it. When used to insist that a woman is inferior to a man, no matter how "true" a stat might be, when used in the context of supporting a racist or sexist attitude, then there is something wrong with it. I even said somewhere on TMC that I don't believe you are a racist or a sexist, but unfortunately for you, you made the mistake of supporting those stats without regard for the context they were used in.


You really need to chill on the martyr attitude. You are doing everything you can to play the victim and it really is getting old. You've made your decision, and I've publicly said not only that I felt it was unnecessary, but that I hope you return, and if you can't handle what you've decided, then that's your problem. One of your problems from the outset of this is your inability or unwillingness to actually LISTEN. I've never said I wanted you to resign, and I sure as hell never asserted that you shouldn't participate here. In fact, you've been told by numerous people numerous times that no one is suggesting Admins shouldn't participate on their own site, but regardless of that, you've continually played the victim by crying that everyone wants Admins to stay from posting on their own site. Your behavior is truly unnecessary at this juncture, and maybe you need to take a further step back and really examine how you're acting.


That's really something that no one needed to know. You may not be an Administrator, but if you continue to voice opinions on how you disagree on what they are doing, you're going to really hamper their efforts to continue without you.


Yeah, NOW. You just admitted that if you had anything to do about it, that wouldn't be the case. Regardless of how you have incorrectly assumed my intentions were in my last few posts, I wasn't directed that toward you. Noplex seemed to have been advocating an Admin policy akin to Kyndig and other Admins I've seen ruin perfectly good MUDs. I'm sorry you felt that was directed toward you, but it wasn't.

Oh, and for the record, I don't hold a grudge against Asylumius or anyone else here. Asylumius and I said our piece, and that was the end of it. I haven't forgotten about it, of course, and it did seem to play toward a specific trend I was seeing so I mentioned it, but regardless, I consider whatever happened between Asylumius and I closed. I'm not so petty to let a disagreement such as that bother me this long afterwards.

This is probably another one of those things that should be in PMs.

You're probably right. I'll be more than happy to take any further discussion of this privately. It's not doing this site, this thread, or ANYONE any favors by continuing to discuss this publicly.

So you are drawing conclusions from my statement and swaying it the other way because you have absolutely nothing to back it up with. That's great, sounds like something that the press does. Of course, any person that actually understands English would know that when I was mentioning about having to get rid of the bad apples I was not saying to ban everyone. But I see where this is going, and you're calling Samson and newbie Administrator. The funny part about this is that I don't know who you are and I would likely say that you're in the same boat as the relatively new Administration here. Newbie, makes mistakes, sure.

One of the cardinal mistakes in any community is siding with the troll. They've made it already. The problem with online communities are that they always get infiltrated by the children (see: Xbox Live) and the idiotic zealots of the flavor of the week. Hope it doesn't happen here but the outlet is grim as far as I am concerned. I'm done with this conversation.

Personally I didn't waste time reading every post, better things to do. In regards to what I have read (I did take the time to read at least 3/4 of the post in the taser thread), I found it all to have been handled fairly poorly. Just because one person stated his opinion and facts on how he got to his opinion others decided to start some huge flame thread. He shouldn't have gotten in trouble for his personal opinion just the one that went on to accuse the admins of editing junk etc should have gotten in trouble. Personally I would have banned his ass first and answered questions on it later, but I'm just like that. Its one thing to debate things and its another to accuse someone of something without the means to back it up. And I for one don't like to be accused of something I didn't do. MudBytes lost one of the top admins because of all of that and it all could have easily been avoided. Lifting the ban impossed by a previous admin is just a bad idea. It would have been different if all the current admin had quit and were replaced by others and the all new ones lifted the ban to start fresh, but when he left and you all lifted the ban it was just like siding against him.

I guess people don't get that I have a PM. Thanks. Thread locked.