Runter gains +5 internets for multi-target kill. :)

Well, I've never heard such an argument made before w.r.t. intelligence (citation?), but more importantly you defeated it in your post, so I'm not sure what you've shown here. :wink:

You probably never read the crackpot texts Scandum has been refering to, I did. The relevance is that it defeats one of the underlying premises of this genetic racial intelligence superiority theory he has been sprouting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race,_Evolu... is actually a nice read Scandum pointed at, if you actually want to read that book is another matter, but its thin and unsubstantial so not very time consuming, but the wiki page does a nice job at pointing out the more important issues.

Why are you referring me to things you say are crackpot texts? (Were you trying to say that the desert survival was actually relevant, or only relevant to Scandum's fantasy world?)

Read and you will know.

Sorry, that's not enough reason for me to read crackpot crap, so if you want to make a point to me you'll have to actually make it. :rolleyes:

Well, if you'd first read the post where I pointed at that text in its entirety, that would help :grinning:

It would tell you the link doesn't point to a crackpot text, but to a text about a crackpot text, but is a nice read regardless.

Is your point so complicated that you can't just tell me what it is…? I'm not going to waste time combing through this huge thread looking for some detail here or there. You're telling me that some example is relevant because Scandum's crackpot stuff says it is. That makes no sense to me as a useful point.

Luckily, you only had to read 8 posts back, to make it easy for you:

http://www.mudbytes.net/index.php?a=topi...

And indeed, the points made by that text are too many and too complicated to repeat it all.

edit: actually, make that 5
http://www.mudbytes.net/index.php?a=topi...

:thinking:

OK, I'm not going to play Guess-Aidil's-Point anymore. Please tell me why the example is relevant even though you said in the same breath that the argument doesn't hold water, or I'll just pretend this whole business never happened. :rolleyes:

It's 290 posts too late for that, Bagginses…. It has to guesses what Aidil's got in its pocketses!!!!

Don't start whipping out your "preciouses".

Aww, c'mon, guys…. don't stop now!





Crat's just sitting there with his finger on the mouse button…

Hehehe, but if he's waiting for 300, who will take care of poor little 295?

The Sahara is uninhabited and from what I know aboriginals are jungle dwellers. One study reported that it takes roughly 3 hours to provide for a meal in African jungle environments, year round, so the situations are far from comparable.

I think we're reaching the end of the discussion where people start to reach for straws and get obnoxious.

Scandum complaining about other people reaching for straws and being obnoxious is win.

So, since Scandum apparently has decided not to answer my question:





I'm going to guess. Talking to him is pretty much talking to a brick
wall anyway, might as well just treat him like one.

My guess is that scandum is actually not a very stupid person. I think
he probably also believes that genes are the primary mover of people's
misfortunate condition, if such they are in.

I think that's a fair guess, based on the the consistency of his arguments
over time, on multiple forums. Even if the human typing is somehow
perpetrating a Colbert Report type performance art joke, the persona
he's presenting can be itself analyzed. And this persona, I think, is
indeed a racist, per the defition (sense 1), and does likely believe that stuff.

Mods, before you lock, read that definition. It is what
Scandum has been saying. I'm not being inflammatory, I am merely
calling a spade a spade. So to speak.

So then, let's think this through a bit more. This racist is
very often, on multiple game forums, bringing up his racist beliefs.
What does he gain by this?

I will give him benefit of doubt and assume he simply wants to get
the truth out, as he sees it. He just wants people to know what
they're blinding themselves to. Maybe he thinks it's funny how they
react too…maybe that's part of the fun. But let's say that at
heart, he's just evangelizing what he believes.

Well, more power to him, right? Why not. Shine on you crazy diamond!

But if this is so…then why refuse to answer this question:




Surely he has an answer. He's obviously thought it all through!
So why not share with us his final solution?

My guess, and yes, it is a guess but I think I fair one, is
that his final solution involves policies so profane and
repellent to the modern conscience that uttering it makes
him de facto wrong. And that is the one thing scandum
cannot bear to be…even at the price of remaining silent.

That's my guess.

-Crat

I'm of the opinion that was the Soviets perpetrated really wasn't communism.

-Crat

Sounds resonable enough. :)

-Crat

So, well, I also thought Aidil's rhetoric was odd, but here's my guess (I'm full of guesses today!).

The supposed cause of asian smartness is adverse conditions. However, aborigines also have had
adverse conditions, so claiming their iq is lower seems to undermine the whole asian smartness argument.

Problem is that crackpot science doesn't work on the normal principles of falsifiability in the way
that real science does…much like a proponent of ESP saying that some test wasn't fair because of XYZ,
a proponent of scandumology would likely argue that pacific islanders are an exception to the rule
based on…well who knows what. But that's the idea.

Since I doubt aidil expected scandum to actually respond, I further guess that it was really kind of
a joke, or intended in a jocular way. The deadpan delivery certainly could obscure that..but yknow.
Smart people have weird senses of humor sometimes.

Not me, obviously, since my genes clearly exclude me from the smart side of the human family.

Assuming I even count as human.

Hard knowing some things, in scandum country.

-Crat

PS 300! :)