09 Oct, 2009, sunjay_papadum wrote in the 141st comment:
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I am Hindu, my gods are many more than your god. I am happy to be voting Yes, i am not needing many of this type of issue to be displaying on my computer, i wish to only be reading many things about programming and mudding.
09 Oct, 2009, Cratylus wrote in the 142nd comment:
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sunjay_papadum said:
I am Hindu, my gods are many more than your god. I am happy to be voting Yes, i am not needing many of this type of issue to be displaying on my computer, i wish to only be reading many things about programming and mudding.
That's a pretty fake sounding name Mr. Fury Papadum.
09 Oct, 2009, Chris Bailey wrote in the 143rd comment:
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I'm pretty sure Sunjay Papadum is a not too uncommon Hindu name. :P
I am Hindu, my gods are many more than your god. I am happy to be voting Yes, i am not needing many of this type of issue to be displaying on my computer, i wish to only be reading many things about programming and mudding.
I'm pretty sure Sunjay Papadum is a not too uncommon Hindu name. :P
Sunjay is yes, I'm not so sure about Papadum though. :wink:
09 Oct, 2009, cranabal wrote in the 146th comment:
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That\\\'s a pretty fake sounding name Mr. Fury Papadum.
Cratylus is the Frank Burns of mudding. Do not tell Cratylus anything in confidence (even a bunch of lies) because he will squeal at the first available oportunity. Why don\\\'t you run to Davion and tell him quickly so you can score some brownie points that you caught The Fury, posting on MB.
The nice thing about IP\\\'s and XFF is that you\\\'re going to look like a goose when they do not point to you know who. Maybe you should make better use of your time other than fisting Samson whenever you can and looking for Furys under ever rock you see.
This is what i think, that this has all been another one of your games to get Samson.
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10/08-01:56,51 Cratylus <cre> 2am for me. sleep :( 10/08-01:57,02 Sinistrad <cre> oh I could\\\'ve been talking to you all this time =( 10/08-01:57,15 Sinistrad <cre> I\\\'ve been like \\\"well Crat\\\'s prolly sleeping\\\" 10/08-01:57,15 Cratylus <cre> meh i wuda been talkin forum stuff 10/08-01:57,20 Sinistrad <cre> hah 10/08-01:57,47 Sinistrad <cre> here\\\'s the problem, man 10/08-01:57,53 Cratylus <cre> lay it on me 10/08-01:58,01 Sinistrad <cre> you\\\'re trying to get Samson to use logic to explain the illogical 10/08-01:58,09 Cratylus <cre> no actually 10/08-01:58,11 Sinistrad <cre> it\\\'s like asking a man to sing about how he lost his tongue 10/08-01:58,17 Sinistrad <cre> No, hear me out 10/08-01:58,22 Cratylus <cre> k 10/08-01:59,22 Sinistrad <cre> if Samson had the gift of unbiased reason, which is required to adequately perform in a forum discussion, then he would have nothing to debate 10/08-01:59,39 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"there\\\'s a banana in your ear!\\\" \\\"WHAT? I CAN\\\'T HEAR YOU!!!\\\" 10/08-02:00,09 Sinistrad <cre> My analogy is attempting to provide context into the futility of asking Samson for reason 10/08-02:00,20 Sinistrad <cre> If he had any, he wouldn\\\'t be saying the things he\\\'s sure of in the first place 10/08-02:00,23 Sinistrad <cre> That make any sense? (441-480 47%) press enter: 10/08-02:00,40 Cratylus <cre> i agree it\\\'s futile to try to get him to use reason 10/08-02:00,54 Sinistrad <cre> You sure give futility some work tho 10/08-02:01,07 Cratylus <cre> what i dont roll with is letting lies go unchallenged 10/08-02:01,29 Cratylus <cre> and i\\\'ll tell you why 10/08-02:01,30 Sinistrad <cre> Yeah that\\\'s why Batman died alone, y\\\'know 10/08-02:01,51 Cratylus <cre> he thinks obama is a kenyan or someshit 10/08-02:01,59 Cratylus <cre> thats fine, he can think that 10/08-02:02,07 Cratylus <cre> but if he says it, i\\\'m going to disagree 10/08-02:02,21 Cratylus <cre> his lack of access to reason is not that motivating 10/08-02:02,27 Cratylus <cre> it\\\'s his spewal of untruth 10/08-02:02,29 Sinistrad <cre> But dude, it\\\'s not just disagreeing 10/08-02:02,46 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"Obama is Kenyan\\\" \\\"ok you go think that, tho he\\\'s not. Enough.\\\" 10/08-02:02,49 Sinistrad <cre> That\\\'s one thing 10/08-02:03,29 Sinistrad <cre> But \\\"Obama is Kenyan\\\" actually digresses into pages and pages of \\\"well prove it\\\" \\\"well here\\\" \\\"well that\\\'s not it\\\" \\\"I say it is\\\" \\\"well you cant\\\' just say it is\\\" \\\"well I can\\\" \\\"well I say this other thing\\\" \\\" well I don\\\'t accept it\\\" \\\"well then you\\\'re not accepting that I don\\\'t accept it\\\" 10/08-02:03,41 Cratylus <cre> that is what happens 10/08-02:03,50 Sinistrad <cre> I could take out the evolution context and replace it with so many other things and I\\\'ve just replicated 50% of that forum 10/08-02:04,04 Sinistrad <cre> That\\\'s not \\\"letting lies go unchallenged\\\" 10/08-02:04,11 Sinistrad <cre> That\\\'s feeding the beast of darkness 10/08-02:04,22 Cratylus <cre> black against the red sky 10/08-02:04,28 Cratylus <cre> yellow eyes glowing 10/08-02:04,34 Sinistrad <cre> and Growing 10/08-02:04,35 Sinistrad <cre> GROWING 10/08-02:04,53 Sinistrad <cre> Because like that General standing in front of the planet of pure evil 10/08-02:05,04 Sinistrad <cre> shooting missiles at it is exactly what it wants 10/08-02:05,16 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"General, I have a doubt.\\\" 10/08-02:05,20 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"I don\\\'t, Mr President.\\\" 10/08-02:05,24 Cratylus <cre> heh 10/08-02:05,26 Sinistrad <cre> and those were his last words. 10/08-02:05,50 Cratylus <cre> so what do you think compels me? 10/08-02:06,06 Cratylus <cre> WHITE WHALE 10/08-02:06,10 Cratylus <cre> HOLY GRAIL 10/08-02:06,15 Sinistrad <cre> heh, that sums it up 10/08-02:06,38 Sinistrad <cre> you are compelled because you don\\\'t believe this world should have a balance 10/08-02:06,47 Silenus <cre> well afternoon and well evening to you guys 10/08-02:06,53 Sinistrad <cre> Hai Sil 10/08-02:07,30 Silenus <cre> just saying hi will be in another window or something :P 10/08-02:07,31 Sinistrad <cre> The devil\\\'s greatest ploy is to make the just angry 10/08-02:07,34 Cratylus <cre> here\\\'s what i think 10/08-02:07,36 Sinistrad <cre> For in their anger, they\\\'ve already lost 10/08-02:07,58 Cratylus <cre> if he were an ordinary member, i\\\'d let it go like 60% of the time (481-520 51%) press enter: 10/08-02:08,00 Cratylus <cre> not all the time 10/08-02:08,10 Cratylus <cre> i am not made of iron 10/08-02:08,14 Cratylus <cre> but a lot 10/08-02:08,59 Cratylus <cre> but he abuses his position 10/08-02:09,18 Sinistrad <cre> wait, Crat.. 10/08-02:09,21 Cratylus <cre> k 10/08-02:09,58 Sinistrad <cre> What does \\\"evolution\\\" have to do with mudbytes.net? Everyone\\\'s got a position somewhere – why is it relevant that he\\\'s an admin/mod/whatever on mudbytes.net? How does that make it any different? 10/08-02:10,24 Cratylus <cre> the context is that in the old days, he would have locked that thread 10/08-02:10,45 Cratylus <cre> then a thread about the locking would start and there would be anger and i might get banned 10/08-02:10,54 Sinistrad <cre> but.. =( 10/08-02:10,57 Cratylus <cre> wait 10/08-02:11,19 Cratylus <cre> since 2007 that\\\'s his relationship with me, shutting me down administratively 10/08-02:11,39 Cratylus <cre> and what i found is that the way to deal with this effectively is stand up to him, all the time 10/08-02:11,43 Cratylus <cre> at full blast 10/08-02:12,29 Cratylus <cre> i think this is what compels me 10/08-02:12,34 Cratylus <cre> it is now simply a habit 10/08-02:13,01 Cratylus <cre> for example, he\\\'s now running a poll about not allowing discussion of religion or politics 10/08-02:13,19 Cratylus <cre> he wants to preemptively shut down the threads he has a hard time coping with 10/08-02:13,35 Cratylus <cre> i dont think that\\\'s ok 10/08-02:13,41 Cratylus <cre> so i stand up 10/08-02:13,58 Cratylus <cre> maybe one day me get permab& 10/08-02:14,09 Sinistrad <cre> I don\\\'t think it\\\'s ok either, but I there\\\'s other things I think are not OK which are more relevant 10/08-02:14,11 Cratylus <cre> but fuck if i\\\'ll let him abuse his position 10/08-02:14,24 Sinistrad <cre> Thing is, I still think you\\\'re just giving him way too much importance 10/08-02:14,33 Sinistrad <cre> He is not your nemesis 10/08-02:15,12 Cratylus <cre> i dont hunt him 10/08-02:15,15 Cratylus <cre> he tasks me 10/08-02:15,22 Sinistrad <cre> You walk in his land 10/08-02:15,32 Sinistrad <cre> You disagree with it\\\'s king 10/08-02:15,44 Sinistrad <cre> but his land is dark, barren, dusty 10/08-02:15,47 Cratylus <cre> he can ban me if he wants me silenced 10/08-02:15,50 Sinistrad <cre> yours is green and glorious 10/08-02:15,58 Sinistrad <cre> it\\\'s not about banning 10/08-02:16,23 Sinistrad <cre> it\\\'s about you even caring about banning 10/08-02:16,58 Cratylus <cre> well i like the other folks at mb 10/08-02:17,00 Sinistrad <cre> I know I\\\'m missing a critical component here. Maybe mudbytes is the only active forum about your passion, and you WANT it to work out fairly to everyone else 10/08-02:17,06 Sinistrad <cre> Yeah, that\\\'s gotta be it 10/08-02:17,07 Cratylus <cre> theres interesting fiscussions n stuff 10/08-02:17,16 Cratylus <cre> the other forums are pretty dead, really 10/08-02:17,25 Cratylus <cre> mb is where it\\\'s at now (521-560 55%) press enter: 10/08-02:17,27 Sinistrad <cre> It\\\'s not like you\\\'re wandering into someone\\\'s Hello Kitty . net forum and just seeking out injustice when someone locks threads about not liking the color pink 10/08-02:17,34 Sinistrad <cre> Maybe that\\\'s the way it is for me, which is why I can\\\'t relate 10/08-02:17,45 Sinistrad <cre> Ok I guess I get it a bit more now 10/08-02:18,06 Sinistrad <cre> Mudding is your passion 10/08-02:18,12 Cratylus <cre> i do like it 10/08-02:18,15 Sinistrad <cre> I gets it then =) 10/08-02:19,20 Cratylus <cre> if ever i seem excessive with samson please give me the benefit of doubt and remember 10/08-02:19,33 Cratylus <cre> knuckling under NEVER gets a favorable outcome with him 10/08-02:19,44 Cratylus <cre> standing up and full force usually does 10/08-02:20,02 Sinistrad <cre> Well you only knuckle under if you actually take him seriously and start something 10/08-02:20,15 Cratylus <cre> i dont understand 10/08-02:20,15 Sinistrad <cre> But I guess taking him seriously is a must, if you want to roam his lands 10/08-02:20,29 Sinistrad <cre> Well here\\\'s where I\\\'m coming from 10/08-02:20,52 Sinistrad <cre> And you nailed it in the beginning of our talk, but I was missing that critical component which I realized at the end 10/08-02:21,55 Sinistrad <cre> If Nafe comes up and says Nibiru, you enter the fray motivated by a morbid fascination, but you\\\'re NOT seriously concerned about convincing Nafe 10/08-02:22,03 Cratylus <cre> roight 10/08-02:22,06 Sinistrad <cre> The conversation lasts a few pages, but ultimately you\\\'re \\\"lol Nafe\\\" 10/08-02:22,16 Cratylus <cre> if at all, these days id hardly bother 10/08-02:22,20 Sinistrad <cre> Right 10/08-02:23,01 Sinistrad <cre> But if Samson comes up and says Nibiru, even though it has NOTHING to do with mudding, you enter the fray dressed in your lawyer suit and carry a silver briefcase 10/08-02:23,12 Cratylus <cre> i will SUE your ass! 10/08-02:23,16 Sinistrad <cre> And the conversation goes on for a thousand pages 10/08-02:23,30 Sinistrad <cre> Even though Samson\\\'s arguments are as silly as Nafe\\\'s, because Samson is saying them you actually do not lol 10/08-02:23,51 Cratylus <cre> samson\\\'s not funy :( 10/08-02:24,14 Sinistrad <cre> You construct pages of arguments, you have your red headed assistant go investigate the neighbor of the roommate of the guy who used to date a girl named Nibira 10/08-02:24,29 Sinistrad <cre> It\\\'s like, you put a LOT of effort to dispute the exact same argument that you would\\\'ve \\\"lol\\\"\\\'d before 10/08-02:24,50 Cratylus <cre> it only looks like a lot of work 10/08-02:24,56 Cratylus <cre> he\\\'s trivial to debate unprepared 10/08-02:25,11 Sinistrad <cre> Well relative to how much work you put into Nafe, it IS a big difference, y\\\'know 10/08-02:25,17 Sinistrad <cre> I\\\'m not saying you\\\'re sweating 10/08-02:25,23 Sinistrad <cre> Even Dershowitz was cool as a cucumber 10/08-02:25,29 Cratylus <cre> yeh in keypresses it\\\'s a lot 10/08-02:25,49 Sinistrad <cre> So I say to myself, \\\"why is he spending so much time on lol?\\\" 10/08-02:26,00 Cratylus <cre> not lol :( 10/08-02:26,09 Sinistrad <cre> I\\\'m also thinking, \\\"y\\\'know just taking the guy more seriously than he would Nafe is elevating him\\\" 10/08-02:26,55 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"Just by actually responding to every silly post of his with well-thought out, respectful paragraphs is recognizing worth in the man, value in his company, nodding to a formidable enemy. Really?\\\" 10/08-02:27,28 Cratylus <cre> well i might appear to be a lordly eminence here 10/08-02:27,32 Cratylus <cre> i\\\'m just a member there 10/08-02:27,39 Sinistrad <cre> my dear friend 10/08-02:27,43 Sinistrad <cre> you are not the admin of me (561-600 59%) press enter: 10/08-02:27,47 Cratylus <cre> :) 10/08-02:27,52 Sinistrad <cre> and you never will be, no matter what mud we\\\'re logged in as 10/08-02:28,00 Sinistrad <cre> your power comes from inside 10/08-02:28,04 Cratylus <cre> well i really didnt mean you n me 10/08-02:28,09 Cratylus <cre> i meant yknow, lpmudly 10/08-02:28,34 Sinistrad <cre> no I\\\'m just sayin\\\' my opinion of the sword you wield comes not from being a member there 10/08-02:28,42 Sinistrad <cre> it is a respect gained through communication 10/08-02:28,43 Cratylus <cre> is big 10/08-02:28,54 Cratylus <cre> bitches dont know bout my sword 10/08-02:29,16 Sinistrad <cre> A naked general is still a general, if you know what I mean 10/08-02:29,32 Sinistrad <cre> It\\\'s not about the rank under your profile pic 10/08-02:29,41 Sinistrad <cre> It\\\'s about authority in your words 10/08-02:29,46 Sinistrad <cre> I\\\'m no CIO 10/08-02:29,50 Sinistrad <cre> But I get them to listen to me 10/08-02:29,53 Cratylus <cre> so yeah, he\\\'s a mad king, i\\\'m not having his shit, and not letting him get away with making sailboats out of men or whatever 10/08-02:30,09 Cratylus <cre> and when he rants crazy shit, i say \\\"thou art mad and this is why\\\" 10/08-02:30,11 Sinistrad <cre> Yeah exactly, so the part I hadn\\\'t figured out until a few moments ago is 10/08-02:30,18 Sinistrad <cre> \\\"why does he care about this kingdom so much\\\" 10/08-02:30,37 Sinistrad <cre> But now I get it - it\\\'s THE hotspot for your passion 10/08-02:30,42 Cratylus <cre> yeh 10/08-02:30,50 Sinistrad <cre> Unfortunately it\\\'s under a mad king 10/08-02:30,51 Cratylus <cre> im a mudder type 10/08-02:30,57 Sinistrad <cre> and here\\\'s what you do 10/08-02:31,27 Sinistrad <cre> either you coup 10/08-02:31,32 Sinistrad <cre> or you build a better kingdom 10/08-02:31,39 Sinistrad <cre> because this is the internet 10/08-02:31,42 Sinistrad <cre> and it\\\'s all about critical mass 10/08-02:31,58 Sinistrad <cre> the forum is only the \\\"hot spot\\\" because people think it is 10/08-02:32,18 Cratylus <cre> no, theres some history you are missing i think 10/08-02:32,20 Sinistrad <cre> you\\\'re investing time in discrediting the king, but that doesn\\\'t take away his power 10/08-02:32,27 Sinistrad <cre> yeah I\\\'m missing a lot I\\\'m sure 10/08-02:32,42 Cratylus <cre> he is co-king 10/08-02:32,49 Cratylus <cre> 3 admins total 10/08-02:33,12 Sinistrad <cre> well are the 2 other admins happy with the crap in the forums? 10/08-02:33,12 Cratylus <cre> his repeated dirty ops with me have dramatically diminished his standing with the others 10/08-02:33,16 Cratylus <cre> that is important 10/08-02:33,16 Sinistrad <cre> ah 10/08-02:33,20 Sinistrad <cre> k, then coup 10/08-02:33,38 Cratylus <cre> in addition, he\\\'s been revealed publicly as dirty 10/08-02:33,49 Sinistrad <cre> getting him to lose his cool so you can claim – wait, have you seen the new Star Trek yet? (601-640 63%) press enter: 10/08-02:34,02 Cratylus <cre> one recent thing was that he stealth edited a rule and then suspended me for breaking a rulke nobody ahd known about 10/08-02:34,19 Cratylus <cre> this sort of thing has eroded his political capital in general 10/08-02:34,36 Sinistrad <cre> Only if the other 2 admins really give a shit about the forums 10/08-02:35,03 Cratylus <cre> and now because of his shenanigans it is very difficult for him to lock threads and ban people cuz he feels like it 10/08-02:35,14 Cratylus <cre> and now there are 3 mods that have been added to the staff 10/08-02:35,21 Sinistrad <cre> Yeah, that just means he\\\'s testing the boundaries of his power abuse 10/08-02:35,22 Cratylus <cre> to handle forum moderation 10/08-02:35,27 Cratylus <cre> and now, exactly 10/08-02:35,41 Sinistrad <cre> That means he\\\'s wising up and seeing where he can comfortably be the dictator without pissing the other 2 off 10/08-02:35,46 Cratylus <cre> you take your eyes off him for a moment, he takes advantage 10/08-02:35,48 Sinistrad <cre> which means coup = really hard now 10/08-02:36,03 Cratylus <cre> but my point is 10/08-02:36,25 Cratylus <cre> consistently standing up to his evil has resulted in a better MB for everyone 10/08-02:36,34 Cratylus <cre> a lot of people see me as basically the bin laden of MB 10/08-02:36,37 Sinistrad <cre> God, it was worse than this? 10/08-02:36,41 Cratylus <cre> but i think i\\\'ve helped clean up the place 10/08-02:37,20 Cratylus <cre> im ok with being the mb bin laden. doesnt hurt my feelings in the least 10/08-02:37,41 Cratylus <cre> what i care about is that madness not drive my hobby 10/08-02:37,44 Cratylus <cre> not havin it 10/08-02:37,59 Sinistrad <cre> well it\\\'s not about feelings as much as it is about - once the dust is settled, don\\\'t you wanna participate? 10/08-02:38,13 Cratylus <cre> i do, i talk on non controversial threads 10/08-02:38,14 Sinistrad <cre> no use suicide bombing if you really just wanted to visit the top floor 10/08-02:38,18 Cratylus <cre> theyre just boring to you 10/08-02:38,29 Cratylus <cre> but now im on double secret bedtime violation 10/08-02:38,33 Cratylus <cre> must sleap 10/08-02:38,34 Sinistrad <cre> yeah those I just don\\\'t understand, no \\\'ffense =( 10/08-02:38,38 Sinistrad <cre> yeap k 10/08-02:38,39 <cre> Cratylus waves.
Heh. Would the appropriate response here be "LOL!"? :)
I mean really, "evil"? "Mad king?" Perhaps I'm missing something, but if either of those were true, and all I am after is banning him, would he still be here?
And what's with the \\\ marks all over everything?
09 Oct, 2009, Chris Bailey wrote in the 148th comment:
Perhaps I'm missing something, but if either of those were true, and all I am after is banning him, would he still be here?
Wat. This sense makes as much sense as \\\.
Can't tell if you were joking or not.
That huge quote had Crat saying something to the effect of me being evil, and that I've been wanting to ban him. And while I certainly would not shed a tear if he got himself banned (again), the quote in that mess is heavily implying the only reason it would be done is because I'm evil. So if that were true, surely he'd already be gone?
09 Oct, 2009, Sinistrad wrote in the 154th comment:
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My favorite part was "you are not the admin of me"
SO Jerry Maguire.
09 Oct, 2009, Cratylus wrote in the 155th comment:
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Sinistrad said:
My favorite part was "you are not the admin of me"
That huge quote had Crat saying something to the effect of me being evil, and that I've been wanting to ban him. And while I certainly would not shed a tear if he got himself banned (again), the quote in that mess is heavily implying the only reason it would be done is because I'm evil. So if that were true, surely he'd already be gone?
That makes sense, then. I didn't read the giant spamlog.
09 Oct, 2009, Sinistrad wrote in the 157th comment:
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Koron said:
Samson said:
That huge quote had Crat saying something to the effect of me being evil, and that I've been wanting to ban him. And while I certainly would not shed a tear if he got himself banned (again), the quote in that mess is heavily implying the only reason it would be done is because I'm evil. So if that were true, surely he'd already be gone?
That makes sense, then. I didn't read the giant spamlog.
Hey that log has my eloquent verbage in it!
Also, I think the word "evil" should be held in the same funey context as:
Nobody here's really Jeffrey Dahmer.
09 Oct, 2009, elanthis wrote in the 158th comment:
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What if I wanted to start a PoliticsMUD ? Or a ReligionMUD ? Or heck, a PoliticsAndReligionMUD ?
What if I wanted to start a PoliticsMUD ? Or a ReligionMUD ? Or heck, a PoliticsAndReligionMUD ?
Just don't start a topic about it, because all of the newly registered accounts have voted!
09 Oct, 2009, David Haley wrote in the 160th comment:
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I wonder what the vote would look like if you weighted votes by time on the forum, number of posts (either straight weighting, bucketing, or applying some threshold), or some other metric to separate new accounts from people who regularly frequent the forum.