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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Travis Casey <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:58:29 -0400</LI>
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On Tuesday, April 18, 2000, Raph Koster wrote:
> - the reasons offered for not granting them seem to boil down to:
> - this is a game, there's a bunch of oddities that mess with rights in a
> game.
As someone who's reiterated several times that most muds are games,
I'd like to say one thing:
I agree that these are a good idea, as suggestions for people running
gaming muds, and I agree that they're more than just a good idea for
a mud that wants to become a virtual community or has other ambitions
beyond simple entertainment.
I don't agree with one of your bases that you're resting these rights
on *in the specific case of muds meant as entertainment*. However,
since that is not the sole basis of the rights, that doesn't mean that
I think none of them apply -- only that I don't agree that that
particular basis applies. This weakens the case for some rights, but
not others.
In other words, I'm not saying that "it's a game, so you have no
rights." I'm saying, "it's a game, so I don't think there's as much
of a need for some of these rights."
To put it another way, I think it's certainly not right for a landlord
to up and tell everyone "You have to move out of the building today"
for no good reason. However, I do think it's all right for someone
running a free game to say "I don't enjoy running this game any more,
so I'm going to shut it down." Losing a particular source of
entertainment is no big deal; losing a place to live is.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00325" HREF="msg00325.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:the_logos#achaea,com">the_logos#achaea,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00338" HREF="msg00338.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 06:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00360" HREF="msg00360.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Jeff Freeman <a href="mailto:skeptack#antisocial,com">skeptack#antisocial,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00412" HREF="msg00412.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Raph Koster <a href="mailto:rkoster#austin,rr.com">rkoster#austin,rr.com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00437" HREF="msg00437.html">Re[2]: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Wed 19 Apr 2000, 00:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Jon Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 04:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00359" HREF="msg00359.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 16:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00381" HREF="msg00381.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Paul Schwanz - Enterprise Services <a href="mailto:Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com">Paul.Schwanz#east,sun.com</a>, Mon 17 Apr 2000, 20:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00409" HREF="msg00409.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Declaration of the Rights of Avatars</A></strong>,
Geoffrey A. MacDougall <a href="mailto:geoffrey#poptronik,com">geoffrey#poptronik,com</a>, Tue 18 Apr 2000, 19:48 GMT
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