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<LI><em>From</em>: Miroslav Silovic <<A HREF="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</A>></LI>
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Cynbe ru Taren <cynbe#muq,org> writes:
> Optimal solution is probably a language like J, Haskell or teco
> that is more about conciseness than efficiency. :)
*grin* I *hope* you meant to say 'readability' rather than efficiency.
> 16K of J will take you a long way. For example, check out:
>
> <A HREF="http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/icfp-contest/isi.html">http://www.ai.mit.edu/extra/icfp-contest/isi.html</A>
>
> This is the 229 lines and 7078 characters (including comments and
> development support "dead" code) J program that won honorable
> mention in the ICFP '98 Functional Programming Contest for beating
> out many compiled C programs many times longer, despite being an
> interpreted language.
I heard of J before and your post finally got me to read the docs. J
is somewhat more powerful than Perl, and somewhat less readable than
Intercal. Rather interesting language, in other words. ;)
Seriously, I haven't read the contest rules yet, but I assume they
limit the language selection. Otherwise, you can just write a MUD in
Java or Common LISP (The Language With Everything On, or Did You
Really Think That -Emacs- Was Big? or MMap Twenty Megabytes On
Startup), and use all the available libraries for these languages - as
a result, you'd get really small code indeed, and it'd want to link to
megabytes of runtime environment.
Also note that they rank the entries by maintainability, which rather
limits the use of C obfuscators (or J, for that matter).
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00034" HREF="msg00034.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fw: 16K mud server competition !</A></strong>,
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Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Wed 05 Apr 2000, 00:42 GMT
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