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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Subdue</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Holly Sommer <<A HREF="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:24:21 -0600 (CST)</LI>
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Richard Woolcock wrote:
> Quzah [softhome] wrote:
> > >Holly Sommer wrote:
> > >> *ding* *ding* *ding* :) Wouldn't it be a far greater challenge to
> > >> _subdue_ your opponent? I mean really... you don't shoot a wild horse,
> > >> you "break" it :)
> > >
> > >Aye, but how do you keep track of how 'broken' the horse is?? I'd bet
> > >it relates closely to what most of us now use as HP :)
Well, what I was thinking of is a bit more complex than that, but let me
see if I can elaborate (ie: think out loud for a moment).
Subduing would be akin to the purpose of wrestling - that is, determining
who is the better wrestler, without having to kill your opponent. The
Roman gladiator approach of "last one left alive wins" is hackneyed :) If
you can get to a point at which fighting is paused, where the current
"winner" of the fight (least beat-up?) has the opportunity to either
finish off his opponent or let the other guy cry uncle... well, I should
think that takes more finesse than just clubbing someone in the head, til
they are a bloody pulp.
For NPCs I could see this as practical to strip off aggro bits, or to
convert a pack animal into a legit mount. For PCs, it would serve as
humiliation without death. The "I spared your life, now go, you pitiful
excuse for a warrior, or I'll finish off what I started here" attitude.
Anyhow, that's more what I had going through my mind than tracking how
"broken" a (N)PC is, over time.
> powers). Although players cannot fall below -10hp, they *can* loose
> arms and legs, and this has resulted in various "punishments" that go
> far beyond simple PK. Most players are able to grow back lost limbs
> in one way or another though. Still, this results in very much a sort
> of 'subdue' combat, with killing only an option.
"What are you going to do? Bleed all over me?"
-Holly
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00348" HREF="msg00348.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud reviewing</A></strong>,
Andru Luvisi <a href="mailto:luvisi#andru,sonoma.edu">luvisi#andru,sonoma.edu</a>, Tue 02 Feb 1999, 07:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00349" HREF="msg00349.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud reviewing</A></strong>,
diablo <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 02 Feb 1999, 08:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: combat</A></strong>,
Quzah [softhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 05:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00307" HREF="msg00307.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: combat</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 19:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00309" HREF="msg00309.html">[MUD-Dev] Subdue</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 21:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: combat</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sun 31 Jan 1999, 01:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00350" HREF="msg00350.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: combat</A></strong>,
Trillion <a href="mailto:trillion#mudhole,spodnet.uk.com">trillion#mudhole,spodnet.uk.com</a>, Tue 02 Feb 1999, 11:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00299" HREF="msg00299.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: Off-topic and the ever present reminders on quoting.</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 27 Jan 1999, 01:28 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">[MUD-Dev] Stock Mud Demographics</A></strong>,
##Make Nylander <a href="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</a>, Tue 26 Jan 1999, 17:21 GMT
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