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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:59:10 -5</LI>
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On 26 Oct 98, Bruce Mitchener, Jr. wrote:
> On Monday, October 26, 1998, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
> >
> > Self has pretty 'heavy' objects. Instead of class concepts there are
> > prototype objects. It has been done in ColdC. IMO, if the Self
> > model was sufficient, there would have been no desire or need for
> > Cold's $frob construct.
>
> I personally feel that the frob datatype (in addition to being fairly hard
> for most people learning ColdC to learn) is fairly well mis-understood.
I can't disagree with that.
>It
> is closest to being the way to implement abstract datatypes, where you want
> all method calls regarding that data to be routed to a particular object.
> It is also highly useful, because of the method handler, for implementing
> proxies for remote objects. It is currently used as a lightweight object in
> some code, which isn't really where its strength is.
A side-effect. Those preferring a different object model may be
tempted to use it as such. I've been told I've been using it wrong,
but it feels so right. ;)
> The syntax for a literal frob is: <object, data, handler> where the handler
> is optional. With a frob without a handler, any call made get transformed:
> frob.method(args) => object.method(data, args) .... While this looks
> fairly, odd, it has uses within the structure of Cold. Where it gets
> interesting is when there is a method handler, the call gets transformed
> like this: frob.method(args) -> object.handler(data, method, args) ... With
> this, you could have something like so:
>
> <$distributor, #[['object, $blah], ['home_system, "ice.cold.org:1150"]],
> 'proxy_handler>
And that's a simple one, Bruce. A very user-friendly syntax has
always been one of my design goals. It would be nice if Cold had a
fixed-in-stone bytecode model, then maybe someone could use it
as target for an Objective Rexx compiler, or some such thing.
A possible release 2 feature? :)
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 26 Oct 1998, 04:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00512" HREF="msg00512.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 26 Oct 1998, 09:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00511" HREF="msg00511.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 26 Oct 1998, 06:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00537" HREF="msg00537.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 04:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00656" HREF="msg00656.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 01 Nov 1998, 04:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00539" HREF="msg00539.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 06:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00540" HREF="msg00540.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 06:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00548" HREF="msg00548.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 27 Oct 1998, 09:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00559" HREF="msg00559.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PDMud thread summary</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 28 Oct 1998, 04:14 GMT
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