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<LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Bruce Mitchener, Jr." <<A HREF="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:59:35 -0700</LI>
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Good evening,
On Wed, October 21, 1998, Marc Hernandez wrote:
> This brings up an interesting notion I was thinking about
>regarding sending messages in muds. What I was thinking about was that
>instead of having the 'interface' to sending the client a simple
>sendText(clientID,"text") it could be based on a .. token system.
> There would be a set of tokens that would represent things
>(nouns/verbs probably). To send something to the client you would then
>say something like:
>sendClient(clientID,tok_Leave(tok_Living(bob))); Then the sendClient
>function would take care of stringing things together and making sentances
>out of them.
> The nice thing about it is that you could have something at
>sendClient that could manipulate messages in a logical manner since it
>would then be a function of legal operations on tokens, instead of parsing
>a passing string and figuring out some of this stuff. The tokens can be
>well defined, unlike english.
Why not pass everything back to the client in this manner? I'd previously
(<A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/~petidomo/lists/mud-dev/1998Q3/msg00698.html">http://www.kanga.nu/~petidomo/lists/mud-dev/1998Q3/msg00698.html</A>) suggested
using a protocol described by an XML DTD, but it could even use MCP 2.1
(<A HREF="http://www.moo.mud.org/mcp/">http://www.moo.mud.org/mcp/</A>). Tools exist to work with both of these
already. My plans are to look at MUX from HTTP-NG and see if that would
suit my needs for a transport layer and then to send XML specified messages
on top of that. I do know the author of a Mac based MUD client that, in
development versions, currently uses XML for internal things, with plans for
wider use of XML in the future.
> Also with the above system you could in theory defer
>interpretation until the tokens reach a client (perhaps there could be a
>light client for people that NEED to telnet in).
Or a proxy server that does a transformation from XML to plain text, much
like DSSSL tools do for SGML and so on.
I'm working with someone on getting a basic plan for the structure of a
system like this laid out and making sure it is extensible (XML namespaces).
Hopefully more soon.
- Bruce
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00346" HREF="msg00346.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>,
quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 09:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00458" HREF="msg00458.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>,
quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Sat 24 Oct 1998, 11:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00308" HREF="msg00308.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 17:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 18:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00333" HREF="msg00333.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener, Jr. <a href="mailto:bruce#puremagic,com">bruce#puremagic,com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 02:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00336" HREF="msg00336.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 04:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 04:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Recursive look</A></strong>,
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Thu 22 Oct 1998, 14:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00306" HREF="msg00306.html">[MUD-Dev] evil - good realism</A></strong>,
Vladimir Prelovac <a href="mailto:tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu">tomcat#galeb,etf.bg.ac.yu</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 17:38 GMT
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