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<LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI>
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<LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:09:24 -0500</LI>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vadim Tkachenko [<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 7:36 PM
> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu
> Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D
> esign)
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> Koster, Raph wrote:
> > Strict: play that obeys the intent of the rules created by the
games'
> > designers.
>
> Somehow, makes me think about the quotation from one of
> Soviet SF books:
>
> Glossary
> --------
> ...
> Basilisk, n.: Creature which allegedly turns into stone everything it
> looks at. Doesn't exist.
> ...
>
> I remember you said it yourself earlier, didn't you?
True. :) Nobody is going to play exactly the way that the designers
intended. However, there IS a line to cross regarding how badly the
intent is distorted. I don't know that anyone can point to where it is,
but I bet anyone who's run a game has felt it when it was crossed. :)
-Raph
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00350" HREF="msg00350.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00382" HREF="msg00382.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: evil - good realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Hacks/Diablo/etc (was: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign))</A></strong>,
quzah [sotfhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 07:13 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:15 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00334" HREF="msg00334.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00282" HREF="msg00282.html">[MUD-Dev] Lengthy Palace study</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 02:13 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Oct 1998, 15:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00278" HREF="msg00278.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Trusting the Client (Re: Laws of Online World D esign)</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 21 Oct 1998, 00:38 GMT
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