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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Felix A. Croes" <<A HREF="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:17:11 +0200 (MET DST)</LI>
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Jason Goodwin <wgoodwin#iquest,net> wrote:
> At 02:56 PM 7/11/98 +0200, Felix Croes wrote:
>[...]
> >This sort of thing would be much more difficult if public key
> >encryption is used to authenticate the server:
>
> Yes, but someone _will_ break the code, and then it might as well
> not even be there since its only result is to slow things down.
Whoever is going to try to break RSA or ElGamal: good luck to them.
> Or even better, just reverse engineer the client to remove the
> check. It is futile, and ultimately adds nothing to the game.
I disagree. First off, requiring users to patch their client
(or download a new one) before they can login on a clone server
stops a large amount of them right there -- these are the same
people who don't know how to upgrade their BIOS for Windows 98.
Second, the UO client is not a static product that you have to
hack only once. It is automatically upgraded to fix bugs and
track server changes. Third-party hacks on the client either
have to track these changes -- which then have to be distributed
again -- or the clone muds would be left behind, causing them
more versioning problems.
Third, right now it is not clear if you are doing anything wrong
by connecting to a clone server. All you have done is make a
change to the login.cfg file. Having to patch the client changes
that.
> >In any event, it would do much to stop the
> >casual use of clone servers that is now possible.
>
> But who are the clone servers hurting?
Taking the UOX source as state of the art, I'd say that only one
addition is needed to make a reasonably bug-free clone a blazing
success: player houses. Alternatively, add combat, death and stat
loss/advancement. In either case, monsters, spells, skills and
related objects are (initially) not needed. Any successful clone
could take away marketshare from Origin.
It could all be a ploy by Origin to father the new Abermud and
supplant telnet & tinyfugue as the standard mud clients, but
somehow I suspect that they were caught unawares.
Felix Croes
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00156" HREF="msg00156.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 22:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Sat 11 Jul 1998, 12:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00179" HREF="msg00179.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Jason Goodwin <a href="mailto:wgoodwin#iquest,net">wgoodwin#iquest,net</a>, Sun 12 Jul 1998, 00:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00180" HREF="msg00180.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 12 Jul 1998, 22:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00182" HREF="msg00182.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Sun 12 Jul 1998, 22:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 20:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00501" HREF="msg00501.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
D. B. Brown <a href="mailto:dbrown1#stny,lrun.com">dbrown1#stny,lrun.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 21:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00503" HREF="msg00503.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#mail,angel.com">adam#mail,angel.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 22:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00502" HREF="msg00502.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 05 Aug 1998, 22:33 GMT
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