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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 12:47:08 +0100 (BST)</LI>
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In <URL:<A HREF="news:local.muddev">news:local.muddev</A>> on Fri 29 May, Adam Wiggins wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 1998, Jo Dillon wrote:
> > Andrew C.M. McClintock (andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu) spake thusly:
> > > I've been mulling over some ideas for the skill system in my mud (at
> > > this stage still no more than a fantastical whimsy) and thought I
> > > would bounce the ideas off the list.
> > > For each skill there would be:
> > > Knowledge (book learning/education) -
> > [snip]
Why not call this theory and
> > > Practical application (experience) -
> > [more snip]
call this practice?
And then arrange things so that these ar partially interchangeable. You
could have a minimal theoretical knowledge and a minimal practical know-
ledge and a total that is higher than the sum of these two. The more you
exceed the required total knowledge the more skilled you are.
> > Presumably you would want to limit the influence of book learning
> > over practical application for some skills; trying to learn swordfighting
> > from a book would likely not get you very far, the only way to learn it would
> > be by practical experience (or would tuition by a fencing master go under
> > education? It seems more logical to me to use the same mechanism for
> > a fencing master's training bouts as for real fights). Rather than
> > using book learning to set the maximum you can learn by actual practise,
> > I'd probably have a default maximum value for each skill which would exist
> > without book learning, and then allow book learning to give you a small
> > amount of practical skill (depending on the skill in question) and raise
> > that maximum by certain amount (again depending on the skill in question).
> > So for instance, swordfighting would have a high maximum, and learning
> > from a book would give minimal practical experience and wouldn't raise
> > that maximum. Alchemy, on the other hand, would have a very low initial
> > maximum, and book learning would raise actual experience and maximum
> > experience by large amounts.
> Lotsa good stuff in the archives about this. Search for "applied
> knowledge" or maybe just "practical".
>
> In our system (which has components very similar to the above), we store
> not only a difficulty for each skill but its major and minor stats. So if
> you don't like the above effect (becoming a knowledge swordmaster from a
> book), you can look at the major stat (probably agility) and the minor
> stat (probably strength), you can limit how much you can learn of a
> physical skill without actually doing anything. Herbalism, on the other
> hand (which would probably have a major stat of wisdom and a minor stat of
> perception) could be much more readily learned from a book. Of course,
> it's generally always wise to try to limit how large the delta is between
> the two skill values.
> Another option you could try but that I've never found a need for is a
> "vicerealness" (is that a word?) of the skill. Meaning, how much do you
> really have to get hands on to learn it? Combat skills would have a high
> value. Arts like cooking would have a medium value, and
> knowledge-oriented skills like written languages would be low. Or
> whatever values you like; you could adjust them to your preference if you
> find that it's too hard or easy for players to learn from books.
Marian
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">[MUD-Dev] skill system</A></strong>,
Andrew C.M. McClintock <a href="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</a>, Thu 28 May 1998, 12:15 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00849" HREF="msg00849.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 09:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Andrew C.M. McClintock <a href="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 10:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00851" HREF="msg00851.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 19:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00857" HREF="msg00857.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 01 Jun 1998, 14:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00861" HREF="msg00861.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 02:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00865" HREF="msg00865.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 03:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Off topic! But please help</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 17:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00933" HREF="msg00933.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Off topic! But please help</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 18:26 GMT
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