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<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:11:28 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:07:02 PST8PDT
> Matt Chatterley<matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, J C Lawrence wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:16:49 GMT Richard Woolcock
> >> <KaVir#dial,pipex.com> wrote:
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> >>> Character development is an important aspect of muds (for
> >>> example, would you play a mud where your character never saved?).
> >>
> >> Err, yes. Tron is a perfect example, if debateable as being a MUD.
>
> > Fascinating question - "If you remove 'character development' over
> > the long term, can you still have a successfu game?"
>
> > Perhaps not so interesting after brief thought - yes, you can. One
> > of the muds I used to play (and which I liked very much) was a
> > PK-only mud in a vaguely futuristic setting which focussed on high
> > violence, high damage, and short-term development (pick up better
> > weapons, gain a few hps, etc), and also on very short lives.
>
> I posit:
>
> Character development is fundamental to the concept and definition
> of a MUD. The only variation in application of this definition
> between games like Tron, and say LambdaMOO, Duris, Sojourn, MUD2, etc,
> is that the character development occurs solely in the human player
> for the former, and partially in the virtual character for the
> others. This creates a scale of development locale with some MUDs
> having the balance of their character development in the human player,
> and some almost utterly in the virtual character.
Great take! This covers all perma-death games which enforce a high level
of fatality by the way (personally I do the latter but not the former);
transferring game-related development (this might be a better term than
character development?) to the player, rather than the character.
You develop socially, and your game-playing skills develop - just as one
might imagine a character developing (although the *actual* development is
different in ways, rather than its appearance; its mostly social and of
course 'learning' based). It might be fun to create a game of this sort,
although it has been done before (one case in point: PK muds which don't
allow the character to develop beyond his equipment, but where more
experienced players will do better).
--
Regards,
-Matt Chatterley
Spod: <A HREF="http://user.super.net.uk/~neddy/spod/spod.html">http://user.super.net.uk/~neddy/spod/spod.html</A>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00732" HREF="msg00732.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Time Limits?</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00890" HREF="msg00890.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">DBs and Events</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Tue 10 Feb 1998, 18:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00397" HREF="msg00397.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DBs and Events</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 10 Feb 1998, 19:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00399" HREF="msg00399.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DBs and Events</A></strong>,
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