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<LI><em>From</em>: Joel Dillon <<A HREF="mailto:emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk</A>></LI>
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On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Ben Greear wrote:
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> I'm contemplating a space based game, where once started, it will
> never again resemble it's starting state (unless the starting world
> image is saved of course.) It will be written in Java.
>
I've been thinking along these lines (a non-resetable mud) except
I'm using C++.
> The game will need to update it's persistant storage very often
> to make this feasible.
How often is very often? Wouldn't a backup and save to disk every
half-hour or so be ok?
> In my current game, I use ascii based flat files. I don't think
> this will work so well for the space game.
Well, it depends on what sort of machine spec you have, but I'd
have thought ASCII flat files wouldn't be a big problem as long as
you load all the data into memory when the server starts up
> Also, as a java server, I don't think I can do a select on incomming
> data. I think a thread for every player is a bit much...any suggestions
> here?
What's wrong with that? Threads aren't too expensive. Unless you're
anticipating literally thousands of simultaneous players you should be
fine.
Jo
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00839" HREF="msg00839.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:jrn#st-andrews,ac.uk">jrn#st-andrews,ac.uk</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 08:09 GMT
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Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 18:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00882" HREF="msg00882.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 25 Mar 1998, 05:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00811" HREF="msg00811.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00820" HREF="msg00820.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sun 22 Mar 1998, 18:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00824" HREF="msg00824.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 22 Mar 1998, 19:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00853" HREF="msg00853.html">World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 23 Mar 1998, 19:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00871" HREF="msg00871.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] World Persistence, flat files v/s DB v/s ??</A></strong>,
Joel Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#cornholio,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Tue 24 Mar 1998, 08:14 GMT
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