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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items (was: Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online)</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 16:13:14 -0600</LI>
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On August 6 97, clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
> In <199707300840.BAA25834#user1,inficad.com>, on 07/30/97
> at 08:06 AM, Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user1,inficad.com> said:
>
[skipped]
> >Examples of stuff that happens all the time on dikus
> >via object limits: most keys are limit one, so players get a key to
> >(say) the dwarven kingdom immediately on reboot and then hold a
> >monopoly over anything found inside until they rent or the mud
> >crashes. I've also seen things like spiteful players throwing the
> >keys to Mahn-Tor's keep into the ocean just to keep other players
> >out, for whatever reason.
>
> All of which seem quite ideal I'm afraid. Note the quote in the
> recent Bartle posts of the chap sitting by the falls waiting to give
> the brand to someone. Its a trap. Its obvious, simple, and *really*
> elegant (outside of the player hitting ^L repetitively). Its also
> something I don't think should either be prevented or designed
> around. Call it a happy accident.
>
> I think the baser problem is that there really is only one way in to
> Mahn-Tor's keep. Why can't the walls be scaled? Or mined? Or a
> player catapulted over the walls? Or magical teleport? Or a fish
> charmed to go eat the key and then be caught by the player and the key
> retrieved? Or the key magically summoned? You get the idea.
I've been playing with a different idea - make unique/restricted items
change their properties - an example:
- There's a door, you really need to open it to get some big reward.
- There's the key, and the only one.
- You accidently found it, or killed somebody who had it in possession,
[optional] you found the door.
- (to simplify) the further you from the given door, the heavier the key
becomes, so you either are forced to go in a right direction (btw, not
nessessarily, thus it becomes more compelling to solve the quest of
finding the right door), or drop the damned no-good thing.
'course, there are exceptions like above - one-way actions like dropping
into ocean, which should be resolved separately.
> J C Lawrence
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00156" HREF="msg00156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00173" HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unique items</A></strong>,
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