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On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Jon A. Lambert wrote:
> On 12 Dec 97 at 16:38, s001gmu#nova,wright.edu wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Adam Wiggins wrote:
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> > > Frank Herbert's Dune. See Tolkien.
> >
> > Loved the books, but it's difficult to extract too many ideas from a
> > Sci-Fi book for a Fantasy theme.
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> Actually, I've always thought of "Dune" as from the fantasy genre as well
> as the Star Wars sagas. Both have that epic (questy?) feel so common to
> heroic fantasy. And "Dune" is positively medieval, both socially and
> politically.
Well, there's medieval and there's fantasy. Modern western society tends
to blur the line betwixt a lot. I'm not saying it's impossible to extract
ideas from the books for a fantasy mud, just that it's difficult.
The more I think about it, the less I like to call Dune SF... there was a
thread a while back that discussed 'hard-core' SF, as fiction founded in
science as we know it today, vs 'science-fantasy', or technology w/o any
real explination, bordering on magic. Dune definately falls into the
later, no?
> > Freidman has another good book, 'The Madness Season,' which has a very
> > interesting take on the whole issue of Vampires, etc. The ideas in the
> > book don't directly translate to the way things work (tm) in our system,
> > but her willingness to break from the mold got me thinking about
> > alternatives that lead to our current system.
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> I liked Ann Rice's "Interview with a Vampire" series. I think she strongly
> broke from the mold. I think that it's hard to remember since she now _is_
> the mold. I'm convinced the WOD environment would have evolved quite
> differently had it not been for Rice's books.
That's what I liked about 'The Madness Season', it broke from the mold
Rice created. :) I have very little exposure to the WoD stuff, and from
what I've seen, I don't think I'd much care for Rice's work, if the two
are hard to seperate. *shrug* I quickly get bored when something becomes
very popular... it gets done to death far too quickly. :)
-Greg
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00815" HREF="msg00815.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00798" HREF="msg00798.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Sat 13 Dec 1997, 22:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00836" HREF="msg00836.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 13:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00929" HREF="msg00929.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 23 Dec 1997, 07:20 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00937" HREF="msg00937.html">OT: Books</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 23 Dec 1997, 15:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00757" HREF="msg00757.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Fri 12 Dec 1997, 23:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00785" HREF="msg00785.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Books</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00412" HREF="msg00412.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Less numbers, more roleplaying.</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 26 Nov 1997, 07:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00417" HREF="msg00417.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Less numbers, more roleplaying.</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 26 Nov 1997, 19:48 GMT
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