<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:24:11 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.971218081736.308A-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Marcel-1.26-1214215231-bc8Ky&5#Gryphon,knoware.nl --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00853.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00855.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00851.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00926.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00854">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00854">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00854">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Mud Dev Mailing list <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:28:09 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Marian Griffith wrote: > Thread subjects: > [skills of hiding and finding] > [recognition] > > > On Sat 13 Dec, Richard Woolcock wrote: > > > Adam Wiggins wrote: > > > > [Stephen Zepp:] > > I was thinking of doing something similar for groups of people - > > something like: > > > "You see a large crowd of people, three of which you recognise as Bubba, > > Boffo and Biffo." > > > The problem I can see is - if the crowd is really big, would I actually > > be ABLE to recognise everyone (or even anyone)? What if you barely know > > them? > > Depends on how big and how dense the crowd is I'd guess. If you can see > less of each individual face you are less likely to recognise anybody. > So in big crowds, or lots of people packed tightly together of if you > are some distance away you are not likely to recognise. > It also depends on how much you -want- to restrict people recognising > each other. It might be more convenient to the players Yeah. I use stats which are internally 0 to inf in range (average maximum would be 100, but varies with race and limits are not absolute, just about as high as you can get on the exponential approach without serious, read: divine, assistance); bearing this in mind: I would make a statement such as 'The difficulty of spotting one person in a crowd is adjusted by their relative size (if it is higher, it is easier), and the number of people in the crowd', and formulate it something along the lines of x = 1/2n + s/2n - y/p Where n is the number in the crowd, s is the relative size (if standard size in the crowd is '10' and Fred '20', s for fred = 2), and y is the number in the crowd whom you might recognise, this being your chance of recognising a *specific* individual. You might want to consider a proper statistical distribution, but its early, and this seems nice and simple to me. :) > > Could a thief (as in someone who had just robbed you, rather than thief > > class) hide in a crowd to escape the authorities? Maybe you should > > have to push through a crowd in order to find someone? > > I think anybody should be able to try to hide in a crowd. And have a fair > chance of success, depending on the crowd of course. Somebody who trained > at being a thief on the other hand should be much more likely to be able > to -move- through a crowd without drawing attention. And of course some- > body trained at catching thieves should be more likely to spot you hiding > or moving through a crowd. On this topic area: I use guilds in a skill based system in such a way that there are two types of 'spell' where 'spell' is definined as an applied skill or special move (a mage's fireball is a *magical* spell, a thiefs backstab is a spell, and 'hide' is a *general* spell). Normal spells must be learnt at a suitable guild (thus you must convince the guild tutor to teach you, which does not always involve being a member). Magical spells must be learnt from other mages or researched, and general spells are available to *everyone* without teaching. The difference here is that the 'hide in crowds' a thief might learn from his guild would be *better* than the 'hide in crowds' that everyone has (the latter more a 'run into crowd and mull like a mulling-thing', and the former more planned, calculated and practised). Regards, -Matt Chatterley ICQ: 5580107 "I shall never believe that God plays dice with the world." -Einstein </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00827" HREF="msg00827.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00853.html">Re: Seems rather quiet</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00855.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] A flamewar startingpoint.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00851.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00926.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00854"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00854"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Crowds and Recognition (Was: Introductions and )</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00833" HREF="msg00833.html">Crowds and Recognition (Was: Introductions and )</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 03:48 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00820" HREF="msg00820.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Sun 14 Dec 1997, 22:41 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00827" HREF="msg00827.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 00:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00851" HREF="msg00851.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 05:35 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00854" HREF="msg00854.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 08:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00926" HREF="msg00926.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 23 Dec 1997, 06:22 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00805" HREF="msg00805.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Sun 14 Dec 1997, 01:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00898" HREF="msg00898.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 21 Dec 1997, 03:25 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00894" HREF="msg00894.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Introductions and</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 21 Dec 1997, 02:48 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>