<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 05:54:09 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199712110559.FAA05522#out2,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3485D690.2ABE76B4#4cs,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scrip</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00683.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00685.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00482.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00056.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00684">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00684">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00684">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 10 Dec 97 21:55:32 -0800</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 03/12/97 at 08:21 PM, Vadim Tkachenko <vadimt#4cs,com> said: >In my model, properties are unlimited in number, ordered in a tree-like >fashion, every leaf, as well as a node, can have a value, nodes have two >- literal and weighted. Thus, it's difficult to estimate a complete >picture even roughly without spending significant time walking that tree >(right now I'm talking about the graphical client) - it's impossible to >have just a small panel with up to 5-10 stats and values, the number of >properties, once again, is unlimited. >So, the next idea was to create some sort of a visualization for that >tree which will reflect, at least approximately, a current status. Get and read some of Tufte's books. He has some very good stuff on interfaces and representations in this area/ Sorry can't pass on any definitived -- Ijust got them myself. >Thus, the result is a visualization using which you would be able to tell >your (other object's) exact property breakdown, at least approximate, >almost instantly (like the artificial horizon in the modern aircrafts, >which can give you the estimate on dozen different parameters at one >glance). >Any comments? I understand, appreciate and agree with the problem -- I have it myself for a somewhat more internally complex model. My current solution? I don't even try to do anything -- I just don't report the current state of the skill web in any form. I originally took this tack purely as I didn't have a clue on how to approach the area -- I now wonder if it really isn't the appropriate answer. Hiding the data can make for a much more interesting time in some ways. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00482" HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Vadim Tkachenko <vadimt#4cs,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Players as Monsters/NPCs</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00685.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Guilds & Politics [was Affecting the World]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00056.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00684"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00684"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00081" HREF="msg00081.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Broly <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Thu 09 Oct 1997, 09:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00107" HREF="msg00107.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 14 Oct 1997, 19:04 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00120" HREF="msg00120.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 18 Oct 1997, 20:39 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00482" HREF="msg00482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Wed 03 Dec 1997, 21:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00684" HREF="msg00684.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Status visualization Was: UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 05:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00056" HREF="msg00056.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Mon 06 Oct 1997, 18:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00062" HREF="msg00062.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 07 Oct 1997, 05:36 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00063" HREF="msg00063.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Brian Price <a href="mailto:blprice#bedford,net">blprice#bedford,net</a>, Tue 07 Oct 1997, 07:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00070" HREF="msg00070.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Wed 08 Oct 1997, 17:33 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>