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<LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</A>></LI>
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coder#ibm,net wrote:
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> On 09/11/97 at 06:22 PM, "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> said:
> >On 9 Nov 97 at 11:00, Marian Griffith wrote:
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> >> Why grant players powers above those the guards enjoy. If players can
> >> have little fortresses that others find it impossible to enter then
> >> why not a town as well?
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> >Good point. The only answer I can think of, is that players have
> >feelings. Mud monsters, well, they're made out of rubber. ;)
>
> One could champion the idea of reducing players to the level of
> monsters/NPC's as part of the game definition...
Why reducing? Lets' consider:
Q: What is a difference between a monster and NPC?
A: None, except that NPC is apparently is able to talk and [pretend to]
express other sign of intelligence (which presumes a different level of
hostility, too).
Do you consider a dragon a monster or NPC? In according to fantasy
books, dragons are highly intelligent and can talk many languages...
Q: What is a difference between a PC and NPC?
A: None, except that NPC is being controlled by the computer, and PC by
the player (which is not true in some MUDs when the player is offline).
Conclusion: NPC == PC == monster, to some extent.
By the way, if you look at that from the implementation point of view,
you'll find the structure greatly simplified - why, I've recently seen
some RPG product, in which the NPC and Monster classes weren't even
derived from a common ansector!
All you need to do is just attach the different behavior control
adapters - and then, a situation is possible when, say, admin is able to
take control over some NPC/monster and RP it...
> J C Lawrence
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00586" HREF="msg00586.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00624" HREF="msg00624.html">Players as Monsters/NPCs</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 10 Dec 1997, 07:09 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00651" HREF="msg00651.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Players as Monsters/NPCs</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Players as Monsters/NPCs</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 05:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00655" HREF="msg00655.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>,
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