<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 18:24:45 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199712091831.SAA39628#out5,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199712040216.SAA11836#pc4,zennet.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00577.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00579.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00486.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00700.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00578">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00578">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00578">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 09 Dec 97 10:14:34 -0800</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 03/12/97 at 08:26 PM, "Brandon J. Rickman" <ashes#pc4,zennet.com> said: >On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user1,inficad.com> wrote: >>[coder#ibm,net:] >>> Deduced reasons: Partly it is as trivial as vocabulary (we have evolved >>> our own terminology and connotation frame), partly it is reference frame >> >>People are getting confused by constant references to Bubba? :) >Making common vocabulary and references clearer would be useful, but >might lead to heated discussion of "What is a spoof?" and "Could the >Great God GooGoo create a rock so big he couldn't life it?" FWLIW The discussion of spoofs, watchers, affects, and Affects, their base scenarios, and limits occupied a few thousand messages in the early days of the CC list. >Here is the kind of information I would be interested in sharing, is this >too much, too vague? Should I just put it all in my .sig? >[my secret agenda -- SPOILER!] >Brandon Rickman - currently a graduate student, University of California >Los Angeles, department of design. ashes#zennet,com >Favorite characters: Shoehorn, Motch >Favorite scenarios: >- [Shoehorn and the rabbits] >Favorite concepts: >- Big Universe: a game world so large all the characters would be unable >to cumulatively explore it in less than ten days. >- randomness versus indeterminacy >- storytelling should be concerned with what the player is interested in, >not with simulation. >- decaying details >more info: http://... >[end of my secret agenda] Quite. I like the idea of collecting such self-written bios for the list. For myself I'd stray to something more like: --<cut>-- J C Lawrence, "Chris", "ChrisL" -- contract programmer, MUD-Dev list owner. Addresses: coder#ibm,net, claw#null,net, and various client specific addresses. Key tems: Bubba, Boffo, Bernie, Biff, etc: Archetypal MUD playuers or NPCs used in scenarios. Spoofs: (definition) Watchers:(definition) GoP: (definition) ...etc Key concepts: Not interested in RP. Goal oriented games are possible with free user programming. Proponent of disk based servers as versus in-memory. Heavy proponent of hands-off administration and game systems designed to obfuscate standard administration/social game problems by side-effect. Proponent of persistant worlds (no resets or repops EVER), level-less skill-based systems, total logical seperation of body and character. body-stealing, single character controlling multiple simultaneous bodies, account/ID/character logins, data-base-style persistant stores with rollbacks for time travel, nested command lines, etc... --<cut>-- I'd then list the scenarios in a seperate area, collected with the various other scenarios from other members. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00700" HREF="msg00700.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Brandon J. Rickman" <ashes#pc4,zennet.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00577.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00579.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Guilds & Politics [was Affecting the World]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00700.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00578"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00578"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Circumstances & Situations</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00932" HREF="msg00932.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Circumstances & Situations</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 23 Dec 1997, 07:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01039" HREF="msg01039.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Circumstances & Situations</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Wed 31 Dec 1997, 01:08 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00520" HREF="msg00520.html">Re: BUILDERS: Ferries</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 07 Dec 1997, 20:54 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00486" HREF="msg00486.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 04 Dec 1997, 02:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00578" HREF="msg00578.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 09 Dec 1997, 18:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00700" HREF="msg00700.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 17:48 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00707" HREF="msg00707.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 11 Dec 1997, 22:51 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00596" HREF="msg00596.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: FAQ and Thread Summaries</A></strong>, Stephen Zepp <a href="mailto:zoran#enid,com">zoran#enid,com</a>, Tue 09 Dec 1997, 22:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00481" HREF="msg00481.html">Alignment</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vadimt#4cs,com">vadimt#4cs,com</a>, Wed 03 Dec 1997, 20:56 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>