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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</A></LI>
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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 21:11:39 +0000 (PST8PDT)
From: coder#ibm,net
>On 01/12/97 at 10:40 PM, s001gmu#nova,wright.edu said:
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>>First off, what's with all the repeats of the original of this message?
>>List admin?
>
>Writing as list owner:
>
> Yup, I'm still alive. Barely.
That's good to hear. :-)
> If you're looking for an official ruling, you're not going to get one.
>Sorry!
>
> Not to blow you off, some background:
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> Generally the quoting level used on this list seems just about right
>if not slightly on the too little side. As such, there are always going
>to be pertubations to the mean: one post quotes too much, the next too
>little, and so on. I'm not going to get involved or worried until it
>becomes a pattern, or until it starts materially impacting the function or
>purpose of the list. One posting could very easily be a slip of the
>fingers or an oversight. I'm not going to get worried. Please don't get
>worried for me. Its not worth it.
mmm... methinks there may be a bit of misunderstanding of what I was asking
about. Either that or I am completely misunderstanding your response. To
be clear, I was asking 'why is it that I got one message, subject
"Adventure Groups [was Affecting the World]", and then about 4 messages
of subject "Re: Adventure Groups [was Affecting the World]", with the exact
same message body as the original?' I was saying nothing about how much
nested attribution was going on. :)
>Not writing as list owner:
>
> Please note Greg, I'm not picking on you here, your post just sparked a
>couple thoguhts, that especially in light of a few of the current threads,
>might be profitably entertained.
Noted. Pulling blinders over the more sensative eyes in my noggin. :)
> Greg's comment above, "First off, what's with all the repeats of the
>original of this message?" is absolutely fasinating if looked at from a
>viewpoint of being an example of a member of a micro-society attemping to
>police its own micro-society.
A beautiful example of social preassure used to control members of a society.
Peer preasure is the term used most often, in pop culture. We spent a good
week or so talking about such socital control mechanisms in a SOC. class.
> If you look at it, the membership of this list in many ways functions
>similarly to the membership of a MUD, and as such, has similarly evolved
>various social structures and forms in line with and supporting that.
>Some of them of course have been drummed in or imported from outside, such
>as my requirement for attributions, or this example of quoting. A few are
>homegrown, such as the somewhat overly genteel civility used in debate on
>the list (not that I'm knocking it, I think its quite wonderful and
>something to be actively encouraged).
I've noticed this at work several times. These social controls really are
some of the more fascinating behaviors we humans participate in, mostly
unawares.
> FWLIW Jon Lambert noticed this parallel in jest many months back (bet
>he's forgotten).
>
> In this light, Greg's comment really becomes a piece of public rebuke,
>of public censure, much are a pedestrian might rebuke another who justled
>them while walking down the street: "Hey bozo! Watch where ya goin, ya
>dickhead!" Tho done with better grammar.
:) Taken as a comment on the number of attributions in a message, yeah,
I s'pose it could be viewed that way. Since it was more of a question about
why I got 5 copies of the same message, my ego would like to think of it as
more of an ill-worded query as to why my micro-cosm delivery service seems
to be hiccoughing (sp?).
A side note, I do think that some of the nested attributions do get a bit
loudicrous at times, but far be it from me to comment. ;) I just do
my best to clean out everything not 100% relevant to my point, and hope
others will see how clear and to the point my messages are (hah) and try to
emulate them.
<snipage>
Sorry for the misunderstanding... any comment, as list owner, on why I got 5
copies of the original message? :)
-Greg
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00411" HREF="msg00411.html">[MUD-Dev] fwd: Erasmatron Revs up Interactive Fiction</A></strong>,
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Wed 26 Nov 1997, 05:54 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00406" HREF="msg00406.html">Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 25 Nov 1997, 10:19 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00465" HREF="msg00465.html">Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 02 Dec 1997, 03:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00466" HREF="msg00466.html">Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00468" HREF="msg00468.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 02 Dec 1997, 19:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00682" HREF="msg00682.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00474" HREF="msg00474.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 03 Dec 1997, 04:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">Re: Adventurer Groups [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 26 Nov 1997, 01:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00405" HREF="msg00405.html">Guilds & Politics [was Affecting the World]</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 25 Nov 1997, 10:19 GMT
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