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<LI><em>From</em>: Miroslav Silovic &lt;<A HREF="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</A>&gt;</LI>
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Derrick Jones &lt;gunther#online1,magnus1.com&gt; writes:

&gt; On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Miroslav Silovic wrote:
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&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Adam Wiggins &lt;nightfall#user2,inficad.com&gt; writes:
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; I like slower timescales.  They take care of this problem pretty
&gt; &gt; &gt; nicely; 24 mud hours for us is about 2.5 RL hours.  Since I can go
&gt; &gt; &gt; pretty easily for 24 hours after eating a big meal, I figure people
&gt; &gt; &gt; that don't want to worry much about food can fill up and not have to
&gt; &gt; &gt; worry about it for several hours of play.  Of course, this still doesn't
&gt; &gt; &gt; solve the basic problem, which is that diku/lp-style food is pretty
&gt; &gt; &gt; boring no matter how little you have to do it, and as I always
&gt; &gt; &gt; say I don't see much point to putting something in the game that doesn't
&gt; &gt; &gt; add anything in particular.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Or you can have both. For example, make it happen, but
&gt; &gt; off-camera. I.e.  allow players to set up camps. With a single
&gt; &gt; command, player would unpack, eat, rest, pack, and they'd be able to
&gt; &gt; continue. Perhaps they might also be bothered while camping (that
&gt; &gt; could be checked) - but if no encounter occurs, there should be
&gt; &gt; no message and no delays.
&gt; 
&gt; You then have problems keeping characters in the same time-frame.  Say,
&gt; for example Party_A camps for the night with no problems, and Party_B must
&gt; actively control the nights events.  Party_A sets out once again the next
&gt; morning and passes the sight of Party_B's camp long before Party_B is
&gt; finished with the prior nights activities.  You then have Party_A
&gt; observing a scene that hasn't been defined.  With a 2.5 hour day, an
&gt; 8-hour night would take 50 minutes, during which time the characters are
&gt; unconscious and therefore the players would be forced to sit and wait
&gt; until they regained control of their characters.
&gt; 
&gt; There might be a way to resolve this problem by create non-linear
&gt; time-scales(such as allowing the night to pass more quickly if there is
&gt; nothing within range to affect the area where camp is made), but
&gt; implimenting such a thing would prove quite difficult.
&gt; 

No, the best way, IMHO, to resolve this problem is to ignore it.  If
the part happens to meet the other, they came to rescue - players will
usually rationalize this and may not even notice that something is
wrong.

I'm saying that subliminal inconsistances as well worth the increase
in immersion that game provides.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  A flamewar startingpoint.y</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Fri 14 Nov 1997, 09:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  A flamewar startingpoint.</A></strong>, 
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Thu 13 Nov 1997, 09:33 GMT
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Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Fri 14 Nov 1997, 05:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00295" HREF="msg00295.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  A flamewar startingpoint.</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00825" HREF="msg00825.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] A flamewar startingpoint.</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 15 Dec 1997, 00:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00855" HREF="msg00855.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] A flamewar startingpoint.</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 18 Dec 1997, 08:36 GMT
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