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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: OT: threading list messages</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</A> (Alex Oren)</LI>
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On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:39:55 PST8PDT, coder#ibm,net wrote:
} >My email reader has problems keeping the list messages properly threaded.
}
} >There are two reasons for this:
}
} 1) Your reader ignored the (In-)Reply-To: headers.
Nope, I just set it up to start a new thread when a subject changes.
You'll probably agree that, even on this list, threads sometimes spawn several
totally unrelated (but equally interesting <g>) threads. So blindly relying on
the "In-Reply-To:" header is not sufficient.
Also, as I mentioned before, the option is global in my email/news reader so I
cannot apply it only to the mud-dev folder.
More than that, I only save the messages that interest me enough to be worth a
future re-reading. Most of the "In-Reply-To:" headers therefore point to
non-existant messages.
} 2) You reader is overly literal on threading by sibject.
Well, i've grown attached to it...
} >1. Appending "[MUD-Dev]" to the subject, and
}
} Which is, theoretically a constant. All messages have it prepended, so it
} should not register a change.
However, the optional "Re:" *after* it is not.
} >2. The number of spaces between the "[MUD-Dev]" and the subject is not
} >constant.
}
} Actually its worse than that. Certain mailers used by members insert
} extra spaces, some insert TABs. Steward processes them all, blindly.
Seems to me you might be the one to blame.
Your message has two spaces after the [Mud-Dev].
} Ignoring the mailers which don't generate In-Reply-To: headers (which we
} have thankfully few of on the list), In-Reply-To is the way to thread.
1. What do you suggest to do when the subject changes to signify a totally
unrelated discussion?
2. What do you suggest to do when the message referenced in the "In-Reply-To:"
field is no longer available?
} Unfortunately nothing is going to happen very quickly. I'm on a new
} contract at SunSoft, and have a boat load of work that I have to get done
} before a deadline in a fortnight.
I have patience.
} Progress from there rests on a decision I'm going to be making as soon as
} I get a chance, (I've got another kid due in a few more weeks as well, so
} all bets are off).
Congrats! We're expecting our first in about two and a half months.
} Welcome. Sorry if I've been a bit curt -- gotta go run and fight with a
} firewall.
Go get it!
--
Have fun,
Alex.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00610" HREF="msg00610.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] A flamewar startingpoint.</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00245" HREF="msg00245.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: threading list messages</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">OT: threading list messages</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Wed 05 Nov 1997, 17:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00246" HREF="msg00246.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: OT: threading list messages</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Thu 06 Nov 1997, 11:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00248" HREF="msg00248.html">Re: OT: threading list messages</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 07 Nov 1997, 01:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00241" HREF="msg00241.html">AI Path Finding</A></strong>,
Todd Lair <a href="mailto:tlair#mailzone,com">tlair#mailzone,com</a>, Wed 05 Nov 1997, 17:18 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00219" HREF="msg00219.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>,
Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Mon 03 Nov 1997, 00:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00226" HREF="msg00226.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>,
Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Mon 03 Nov 1997, 11:06 GMT
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