<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic) --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:14:57 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.971027211019.682A-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SV4.3.93.971026222239.12886A-100000@online1 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00159.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00161.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00159.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00203.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00160">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00160">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00160">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:14:05 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Derrick Jones wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 coder#ibm,net wrote: > > > On 26/10/97 at 10:10 AM, Derrick Jones <gunther#online1,magnus1.com> said: > > >On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Marian Griffith wrote: > > >> On Wed 15 Oct, Michael Hohensee wrote: > > >> > > On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 coder#ibm,net wrote: > > > > > > >The problem here is twofold. 1.) Magical travel is instanteous and > > >doesn't leave tracks... > > > > Why doesn't it leave tracks? > > Well, after some thought, I guess it could...A movement spell affects two > locations, the start and end points. I suppose there is no harm in > leaving some detectable trace magic at both ends...Now being able to tell > which endpoint matches this particular startpoint may take some doing (on > the part of the NPC), but at least their seach would be narrowed... > You'd also get the interesting side effect of having guards portal into > each recent exit-portal (all those areas targeted by a portal spell within > the last 5 min or so), search the immediate surroundings, then portal back > out until the correct portal is found...Maybe even have the guards > interrogate whomever happened to be nearby. Yup. For those who describe magic as some sort of 'radiation' or subscribe to the thoughts that it can 'saturate' objects, the use of a change spell such as teleport would 'bombard' the two locations with magical 'wavicles', leaving a sort of magic-o-active signature. Perhaps magical divination means can be employed to find out from whence a portal came, and so on (A sort of magical-investigation division of the law enforcement agency). > > Why don't the guards also have a mage component to their forces, charged > > with pursuing magical offenders instead of the cannon fodder plebs? > > They do. Problem is being able to keep the NPC-code up-to-speed with PC > antics. Cannon fodder plebs are in such abundance in most muds mainly > because it isn't too difficult to preprogram a dullard reacting to the > unexpected. ("Uhh...where did he go, Ugh?") (I actually played a > barbarian in AD&D named Ugh...one of my favorite charaters. He had an > intelligence stat of 4 (3-18 bell curve scale), but I guess that > discussion belongs in the intelligence stat thread...) Yup! Of course, you can also allow PCs on the law-enforcement end of the scale to help balance it out. But adding a variety of information sources is good.. perhaps an alchemist who passes as the forensic department, for instance. > > > Would it make sense for the guards to have magic-nullifying devices? > > Smack me. I already have a spell that shields _items_ from magical > radiation (really does a number cast on a magic sword because the shield > is two-way). It really wouldn't be too much of a stretch to encase a > larger area (with probably some sort of weaker shield, with maybe some way > to punch a 'hole' in it...). The mages guild would probably create the > spell even if it wasn't pre-made. I'd imagine that guards would have a > portable field generator of some sort as standard issue, especially if > mages were concidered a threat in the area and local monies could easily > support such a project... Heh. Heh. I'm still pondering nullification of magic. It may take place by use of raw elemental force (from which magic is essentially constructed), and/or special minerals which are more elemental than the usual (for instance you might have a special sort of stone created from the earth element and more directly connected to it than normal stone). [Snip rest] Regards, -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A> "All extremists should be taken out and shot." </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> coder#ibm,net</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00159" HREF="msg00159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Derrick Jones <gunther#online1,magnus1.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00161.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Reusable plots for quests</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00160"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00160"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Sun 26 Oct 1997, 08:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00157" HREF="msg00157.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 26 Oct 1997, 19:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00158" HREF="msg00158.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 26 Oct 1997, 23:23 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00159" HREF="msg00159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Mon 27 Oct 1997, 04:16 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 27 Oct 1997, 20:14 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 02 Nov 1997, 05:10 GMT </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Wed 29 Oct 1997, 06:31 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00169" HREF="msg00169.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Thu 30 Oct 1997, 06:51 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00205" HREF="msg00205.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] To catch a mage (was fear of magic)</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 02 Nov 1997, 06:42 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>