<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:30:09 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199710141829.SAA122840#out2,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.SV4.3.93.971009033754.17617B-100000@online1 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00103.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00105.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00078.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00108.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00104">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00104">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00104">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 14 Oct 97 11:18:55 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 09/10/97 at 09:15 AM, Broly <gunther#online1,magnus1.com> said: >On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> In <Pine.SV4.3.93.970928225411.13693A-100000@online1>, on 09/29/97 >> at 09:01 AM, Broly <gunther#online1,magnus1.com> said: >> >Also what about magic in these places? Even though magic is >> >commonplace in a mud-world, I'd imagine that a mage casting any spell >> >will be suspicious in some towns...particularly those that have been >> >attacked magically in the past... >> >> This would seem dependant on how obvious magic-making is in your >> mdoel. If you use a Waving Hands type scenario, the process of making >> magic could be extremely cicumspect: >Actually, for most spells in my system (there are a few exceptions, where >I plan on letting the caster keep the casting of spells secret unless >they are closely observed, because the verbal and somatic components are >easily hidden.), everyone capable of observing the caster will know that >something is going on. Whether its the caster jabbering in a strange >tongue or flailing about wildly, most people (PC & NPC) will recognize >that a spell is being cast (except for the terminally stupid, who will >just think the caster is singing/dancing). Ahh. My preference has idealised magic making being almost entirely silent and stationary. The main requirements are great concentration and will power, with the physical aspects coming in as minor supporting roles as aids to the first two. The intent is for a truly expert mages to be able to cast any magic without visibly moving a muscle. More minor mages will require greater assistance to their concentration via physical motions, words, and other patterning forms. Thus the neophyte may dance and scream and wave his arms to achieve the proper conceptration and form for a particular magic, a more expert mage may merely stagger a few similar steps, mutter to himself, and gesture with his hands, and the trhue expert may do nothing at all to cast the same spell but blink, if that. >I guess a band of mages could be compared to UN forces. If the UN looted >the town, then the next wave of peacekeepers is going to be dragged out >into the street and shot, but if they come into the town to help out >disaster victims, they'll have a parade if they returned when things got >back to normal. Should a mage be visibly a mage? Should mages be something distinct from other character types? Note: I'm taking a number of large risks here, among which are going for a high magic world. High magic changes almost all the rules. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00112" HREF="msg00112.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon Leonard" <jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00108" HREF="msg00108.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Derrick Jones <gunther#online1,magnus1.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00078" HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Broly <gunther#online1,magnus1.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00103.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] UI Issues: Anti-scripting techniques</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00105.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Riddles for games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00108.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00104"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00104"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00072" HREF="msg00072.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, Broly <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Wed 08 Oct 1997, 19:45 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00020" HREF="msg00020.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, Todd Lair <a href="mailto:tlair#mailzone,com">tlair#mailzone,com</a>, Thu 02 Oct 1997, 00:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00029" HREF="msg00029.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 02 Oct 1997, 20:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00078" HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, Broly <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Thu 09 Oct 1997, 07:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00104" HREF="msg00104.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 14 Oct 1997, 18:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00108" HREF="msg00108.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Tue 14 Oct 1997, 20:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Wed 15 Oct 1997, 22:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00121" HREF="msg00121.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 18 Oct 1997, 20:39 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Fear of magic (was:Usability and interface)</A></strong>, Derrick Jones <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Sun 26 Oct 1997, 08:08 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>