<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? 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(Was: PK Again)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Broly <<A HREF="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 23:25:25 -0400 (EDT)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Marian Griffith wrote: > On Thu 25 Sep, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:50:47 PST8PDT, Adam Wiggins > > <nightfall#user1,inficad.com> wrote: > > > >The morals being: character creation should ask questions in the correct > > >order. - general to specific; and second, documentation about character > > >creation should be availible before you actually waste your time creating > > >a character that you'll decide to redo an instant later now that you know > > >what your choices are. This gets even more important as your character > > >creation process gets longer and more involved (which I vastly prefer). > > In many mushes this is handled quite nicely, with a series of rooms to > traverse each having a number of exits that implies a certain choice. > In each room extensive documentation on the choice can be found so you > do not have to jump in blindly, and hope you made the right decision. > The option to change your mind and return to the previous room thereby > undoing the last choice would be a nice addition that I have not yet > seen anywhere though. And of course mushes come standard with a guest > character that you can use to look around and get an understanding of > the game. It's always seemed odd that when a builder designs an NPC, (s)he always has the option of going back and editing the work. Seems only logical that players should have the same option concidering the importance of the character to the player compared to the importance of the NPC to the builder. How about a menu screen for creating a character, much like the ones that many builders use (OasisOLC for example) That way the player can enter the information in any order, going back easily, having help easy to find (just have help files as a menu choice at each stage), and having much of the important character information veiwable at the same time to get a general overview of what has been created so far. Most muds, however let players delete and reuse names if they change their minds early on. This however turns out to be a very time-consuming and frustrating way to learn about each race/class. And its downright nasty if the creation system is involved. From experience I've noticed that a fair number of players create one character, play the game for a short while, then go back and create a second character to 'undo' the mistakes made in the first go around. This is especially common in the powergaming muds, where precious points are 'lost' from not optimizing the character from the very start. As to going back and changing your character in-game once you have begun to play...I might allow some changes early on, but would find it quite hard to justify 'but I realy wanted to be an elf' in game terms after the character had lived the first 70 years as a dwarf (~18 in human terms)... Gunther </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01498" HREF="msg01498.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? 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(Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 23:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01498" HREF="msg01498.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 18:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01508" HREF="msg01508.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 10:21 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01526" HREF="msg01526.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Broly <a href="mailto:gunther#online1,magnus1.com">gunther#online1,magnus1.com</a>, Mon 29 Sep 1997, 03:20 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01450" HREF="msg01450.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 21:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01482" HREF="msg01482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 12:59 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01493" HREF="msg01493.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 17:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01524" HREF="msg01524.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? (Was: PK Again)</A></strong>, Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Sun 28 Sep 1997, 21:46 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>