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<LI><em>From</em>: Maddy &lt;<A HREF="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</A>&gt;</LI>
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Previously, Nathan Yospe wrote....
&gt; On Wed, 24 Sep 1997, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
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&gt; :On Wednesday, September 24, 1997 4:48 AM, Maddy [SMTP:maddy#fysh,org] 
&gt; :wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; :&gt; There could be a religion that requires its members to kill
&gt; :&gt; anyone with blond hair.
&gt; 
&gt; :There could be all sorts of things. What exactly does this religion add to 
&gt; :the game? Ummm... pissed off players and roving groups of antisocial dorks. 
&gt; :Maybe we should do something different.
&gt; 
&gt; The most fun I've ever had on any game was engineering an escape from just
&gt; such a horde (donut cult), where said horde was played by other gamers. The
&gt; most fun on a mud was in defending my own Order of the Dew against a
&gt; bloodthirsty lot of wargod worshippers. Sounds like there are exceptions to
&gt; your own preferences. Ever stop to think that maybe YOU are trying to lump
&gt; ALL players into your own mold, as much as any of the rest of us are trying
&gt; to lump OUR MUD'S players into our molds? Lay off the righteous trip already,
&gt; it is starting to piss me off.

&lt;cheek position="in tongue"&gt;Could this be another idea for a mud
religion?&lt;/cheek&gt;

&gt; :&gt; Well the problem is, is that all your balance problems seem to be based 
&gt; :upon
&gt; :&gt; XP/Level based systems and they don't really make sense if you don't have
&gt; :&gt; either of them.  I'm sure that I'll have loads of balance problems to 
&gt; :start
&gt; :&gt; with, which is why I'm going to take most of my system from an already
&gt; :&gt; stable PnP system.
&gt; 
&gt; :I'm basing my examples on level/XP based systems because it's relatively 
&gt; :certain that we all understand how those work. I could always base it on 
&gt; :the attribute/skill based system White Wolf uses, but that's very MUSHlike 
&gt; :and people would complain. I could also base it on Amber diceless, but 
&gt; :people would still complain. I could base it on Man, Myth, and Magic which 
&gt; :had a dozen nationalities and a hundred odd skills and sixty some classes, 
&gt; :but I don't think anyone here has any experience with it. What *should* I 
&gt; :target toward? 'Level' is a generic term we all understand. Race, class, 
&gt; :experience, spell, we all understand what these mean. There IS an 
&gt; :equivalent in your system, regardless of how you classify it. Ars Magica 
&gt; :doesn't really *need* a canned spellbook; you can do anything you like, 
&gt; :magic is infinitely mutable, and really a 'spell' ought to be a foreign 
&gt; :concept under this system. But there ARE established 'standard' magic uses, 
&gt; :because people demanded them -- thus, they are spells just like any other 
&gt; :game might have.
&gt; 
&gt; Unless I misremember, Maddy had his own developed PnP? In any case, there is
&gt; not going to be an analogous concept in any game. Certainly, the analogy is
&gt; tenuous at best for my system, nonexistant for JCL's...

I think you may have misremembered - my GM has developed his PnP (Lucky13)
but at the moment I've not really thought much about exactly what system
I'll use although I was originally planning on using RuneQuest.  Lucky13 is
very similiar to RuneQuest anyway, so it's only when I get down to the finer
details will I have to make up my mind.

Either way you're right - the similarities are few &amp; far between.

Maddy

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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01473" HREF="msg01473.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 05:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01520" HREF="msg01520.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 28 Sep 1997, 15:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01466" HREF="msg01466.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 00:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01483" HREF="msg01483.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 13:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01488" HREF="msg01488.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Fri 26 Sep 1997, 14:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01504" HREF="msg01504.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 06:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01515" HREF="msg01515.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>, 
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 23:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01323" HREF="msg01323.html">RE: [MUD-Dev]  Types of game</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Sat 20 Sep 1997, 19:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01334" HREF="msg01334.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Types of game</A></strong>, 
Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sun 21 Sep 1997, 02:24 GMT
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