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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A> (Caliban Tiresias Darklock)</LI>
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On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:06:01 PST8PDT, Maddy <maddy#fysh,org> wrote:
>IIRC only thieves could read magical scrolls in D&D and even then only at
>high level.
Thieves at high level were permitted to read magic-user spells from
scrolls. There were two types of scrolls; the spell scroll, readable and
usable only by the appropriate spellcasting class (or in the case of MU
scrolls by a high-level thief), and just plain magical scrolls like
'protection from evil' which could in fact be read by anyone.
>> Security professionals and police officers routinely walk the streets
>> with holstered weapons, which is the modern equivalent of a professional
>> adventurer packing a sword.
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>There is a whole lot of difference between brandishing a weapon and having
>it in your holster.
Not in the eyes of the law, actually... walking out in the street with a
holstered weapon is indeed considered 'brandishing'. But this is a
legalistic term, in any case, and what you might also want to consider
is that the social standards on a MUD are significantly different with
regard to weaponry, as you can logically expect each and every person
you see on a MUD to be armed at all times and rather experienced in
combat.
>why on earth would he do all these draining things
>just to drop you in trouble?
Why would he want to get you in trouble in the first place?
>I think the best solution would be to stop the instant spell thing. Casting
>a summon portal spell shouldn't take a second. I want that MU to wave his
>arms about and sing the Happy woodcutters song until he's blue in the face
>before he gets a portal. By which stage you've stabbed him in the back and
>long since left.
If you know what he's planning to do. Once he has the portal open, he
could THEN pick you up and haul ass through the portal. ;)
>> Yeah, you'll just have areas that don't look tough but actually are, so
>> the low-power characters will get killed more easily.
>
>Low-power _stupid_ characters will get killed more easily. A tough area
>will obviously give plenty of warnings. Large numbers of well chewed bones,
>signs warning of great evil, neighbouring villages full of frightened
>villages with scary stories to tell.
Excuse me, but this is a bad assumption. I've been in level 5-15 areas
on MUDs and taken one step too far east to find myself in a level 35-50
area, with only one sign saying 'The area to the east is dangerous to
those who are seen'. I had therefore cast invisibility on myself before
stepping east, which unfortunately did not fool the mob that attacked me
one bit.
>It depends on how you impliment the spell. I for one would want an
>invisibility spell to be broken if you do anything which gets the attention
>of another person. Now that does mean that if you're clever, if you're
>going to pick something up, you'll make sure no-one is watching.
I strongly disagree. If I am invisible, and I pick something up, and the
spell is canceled because someone saw me: what if that person wasn't the
one I was trying to hide from? What if that person saw me cast the spell
in the first place? When I walk into the next room, do I turn back
invisible? Basically, you're saying I have to cast the spell in utter
secrecy and then do nothing whatsoever... some spell!
>> Just because you know someone is there doesn't mean you know WHO.
>
>It doesn't even matter if you know who - you should still be able to swing
>at someone if they're invisible, especially if they've got someone over
>their shoulder.
It *does* matter, because I'm trying to hide ME. Not what I'm carrying.
If I wanted to hide what I was carrying, I would have cast invisibility
on that instead. ;)
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01503" HREF="msg01503.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01534" HREF="msg01534.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01434" HREF="msg01434.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01455" HREF="msg01455.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 25 Sep 1997, 22:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01481" HREF="msg01481.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface</A></strong>,
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