<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:46:52 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9709191519.8gel@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supp</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01274.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01276.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01549.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01310.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01275">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01275">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01275">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 19 Sep 97 08:19:02 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Caliban:] :I have a vast number of things to add to this, but they are almost all :off-topic. Suffice to say that in many places graphic interfaces are not :actually appropriate, and MUDs are one of those places. Graphic interfaces :are inherently limiting in expression, which I think we all agree is Bad on :MUDs. Limiting expression is bad. That does not imply that graphics is bad. It only implies that a limited graphics-only input system is bad. :> Even mainframes have abandoned such archaic interfaces. :> Telnet really does suck and turns off thousands of potential users. :Then let them go to Quake servers and join Ultima Online. Graphic MUDs are :another topic entirely. Why? I can be just as lazy as them. I read lots. Likely not as much as you, but I've got thousands of books. I still prefer the simplistic graphical output that my system has over straight text. It's *easier*. :> I see no need for player :> documentation to be printable or downloadable. : :If I can't download the documentation and look at it while I'm not on your :game, it's harder for me to learn my way around. If I can't print it, it's :harder for me to find information on commands. Hardcopy and local copies :are important. But as the game's designer, or as one of its primary :founding players, you won't understand it... it's easy, see, not that much :at all. Agree 100% here. :> I like consistent themes. I wouldn't find it amusing to run into :> Elvis in Babylon. : :I would find it vastly amusing, provided he wasn't presented as 'Elvis' but :as 'An aging and overweight man with long sideburns, wearing a bright white :gem-studded suit and dark glasses. He jerks his head and gyrates his hips :at odd times, and seems to have some form of nervous disorder.' Dropping :Elvis into Babylon is stupid. Dropping someone that *looks* like Elvis into :Babylon is funny. Disagree here. There are lots of amusing stories around about Elvis being a space alien, being a strange person hiding out somewhere, so why not back in Babylon. Someone other than Elvis that looks like him is just a big anachronism (dark glasses???) and very out of place. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01310" HREF="msg01310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01274.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is supposed to be playing, anyway? 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Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 20:58 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01514" HREF="msg01514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Travis Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#polaris,net">efindel#polaris,net</a>, Sat 27 Sep 1997, 23:15 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01530" HREF="msg01530.html">[MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Mon 29 Sep 1997, 13:40 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01549" HREF="msg01549.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Tue 30 Sep 1997, 22:04 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01275" HREF="msg01275.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 19 Sep 1997, 14:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01310" HREF="msg01310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 20 Sep 1997, 06:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01326" HREF="msg01326.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 20 Sep 1997, 20:19 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01380" HREF="msg01380.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Usability and interface and who the hell is suppo</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 23 Sep 1997, 06:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01267" HREF="msg01267.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Something complete different</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 18 Sep 1997, 22:35 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>