<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: No Subject --> <!--X-From-R13: VOZS2 Dbbg <ebbgNunjnvv.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:48:05 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 97Sep15.063142hwt.826086(2)@hale2.its.Hawaii.Edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, No Subject</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01216.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01218.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01211.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01218.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01217">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01217">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01217">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>No Subject</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: mud-dev <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>From</em>: HALE2 Root <<A HREF="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:31:42 -1000</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> <local - yospe 17840>: error (Permission denied) creating "/home/8/yospe/.inbox/yospe" (this is abnormal, investigate!) ---------- Original Message ---------- external rcvdfrom relay2.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.3.56]) with SMTP from <mud-dev#null,net> to <yospe#hale2,its.Hawaii.Edu> Received: from out1.ibm.net ([165.87.194.252]) by relay2.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <370739(9)>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 06:27:58 -1000 Received: from shadow.null.net (slip129-37-51-155.ca.us.ibm.net [129.37.51.155]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA116718 for <yospe#hawaii,edu>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:30:40 GMT Received: from shadow.null.net ( [192.1.1.1] ) by shadow.null.net (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:29:33 PST8PDT Received: from betty.globecomm.net [207.51.48.28] by in2.ibm.net id 874336530.51410-1 ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:15:30 +0000 Received: from bermuda.io.com (bermuda.io.com [199.170.88.7]) by betty.globecomm.net (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id LAA03818 for <mud-dev#null,net>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (efindel@localhost) by bermuda.io.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15326 for <mud-dev#null,net>; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:15:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bermuda.io.com: efindel owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <<A HREF="msg01173.html">E0x8nYQ-0003eh-00#crucigera,fysh.org</A>> Message-ID: <<A HREF="msg01215.html">Pine.BSI.3.96.970915095219.14411B-100000#bermuda,io.com</A>> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:29:28 -1000 X-OldDate: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:15:27 -0500 (CDT) Sender: mud-dev <mud-dev#null,net> X-Listname: mud-dev#null,net Reply-To: mud-dev#null,net From: "Travis S. Casey" <efindel#io,com> To: mud-dev#null,net Subject: [MUD-Dev] Modeling spells/skills as collections of affects On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Maddy wrote: > Previously, Shawn Halpenny wrote.... > > > - Bubba pulls the rope and the rock moves (the rock receives a > > message to be moved (probably came from the rope) and queries its > > list of modifiers. Rock sees the rope modifier and calls a method > > on it that lowers the dex required by the action by 3 (and perhaps > > spews out a message fragment about being able to move the rock now > > that the rope is tied to it). Execution returns to the move rock > > method and the action succeeds since Bubba's dex was 17.) > > The way I see it, is that when Bubba (who is holding the rope) tries to move > away from the rock, before it does lets him, it first tries and moves the > rope. The rope since it has the "attached to" attribute, will then also > check to see if what it is "attached to" can move and is not the object that > was checking to see if it can move. Same goes for the rock. Unfortunately > I hadn't thought about using strength or dex to limit whether the rock could > be moved. > > I guess the rock would "ask" the rope what strength it had, who in turn > would "ask" bubba, since the rope wasn't the original object who was moving. > What if Boffo comes along and starts pulling the rope as well? The rope could keep a list of who's pulling on it and in what directions. Thus, if Bubba has strength 16 and Boffo has strength 18, there are multiple possiblities: Bubba and Boffo both pull north: rope pulls north with strength 34 (assuming a linear scale) Bubba pulls south and Boffo pulls north: rope pulls north with strength 2 Bubba pulls south and Boffo pulls west: rope pulls northwest (assuming a mud with standard compass directions) with strength 24. etc. This would allow for tug o' war and other such fun things. :-) -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Keeper of the rec.games.design FAQ: '---''(_/--' `-'\_) <A HREF="http://www.io.com/~efindel/design.html">http://www.io.com/~efindel/design.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01216.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Modeling spells/skills as collections of affects</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01211.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01217"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01217"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Looking for books...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00700" HREF="msg00700.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Looking for books...</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 21 Aug 1997, 17:01 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00645" HREF="msg00645.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Finding Space</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 17 Aug 1997, 19:19 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">No Subject</A></strong>, Maddog Worlds <a href="mailto:maddog#best,com">maddog#best,com</a>, Sun 17 Aug 1997, 18:42 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01211" HREF="msg01211.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 14 Sep 1997, 19:03 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01217" HREF="msg01217.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01218" HREF="msg01218.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01219" HREF="msg01219.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:50 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01221" HREF="msg01221.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 16:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01222" HREF="msg01222.html">No Subject</A></strong>, HALE2 Root <a href="mailto:root#hawaii,edu">root#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Sep 1997, 17:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>