<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games --> <!--X-From-R13: "Fenivf E. Qnfrl" <rsvaqryNvb.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 13:51:52 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSI.3.96.970912083825.11592B-100000#xanadu,io.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199709120030.RAA09083#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:efindel#io,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01188.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01190.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01187.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01197.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01189">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01189">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01189">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Travis S. Casey" <<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:51:50 -0500 (CDT)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > In <<A HREF="msg01157.html">341c17c9.72728107#relay,mnsinc.com</A>>, on 09/08/97 > at 08:28 AM, caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock) said: > > >This assumes a formal joust. In actual combat, killing or hobbling > >the mount is the grim and efficient method of unhorsing your > >opponent. It is still, however, met with some distaste by most. > > The historical ledgers of peasantry being paid to go out and hamstring > or gut the opponents horses during a battle would seem to contradict > this, as would the heavy chest armours for chargers. > > Against an agile opponent armed with a knife, a heavy armed and > armoured knight on horseback has little chance. Little chance of what? Killing the knife-wielder? Possibly, if the knife-wielder can keep a cool head (i.e., doesn't panic and try to run away -- the horse can outrun him, and it's hard to dodge well while running full-tilt). I still wouldn't lay a bet against the knight, though -- his horse is probably armored, so all he really needs to do is run over his opponent a few times. Surviving? I'd say the knight has a wonderful chance of surviving -- armor does not limit your movement as much as most people think it does, and a good suit of armor will give excellent protection even from a knife -- "chinks" in plate armor normally had padding and chainmail under them. Rapiers, contrary to common myth, were not developed to use against plate-armored knights. Indeed, there's a story from France of a knight who fell off his horse, hit his head on a rock, and was knocked unconscious. His opponents wanted to finish him off without going to the trouble of removing his armor. They tried a sword first, but there were no gaps in the armor big enough to let it in. Then they tried a dagger, but there were still no gaps large enough. They tried a wooden club, but it wouldn't dent the armor. Finally, they sent a peasant off to get them a woodcutter's axe, and were able to bust him up like a lobster with it. -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <efindel#io,com> ZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Keeper of the rec.games.design FAQ: '---''(_/--' `-'\_) <A HREF="http://www.io.com/~efindel/design.html">http://www.io.com/~efindel/design.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01197" HREF="msg01197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01187" HREF="msg01187.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01188.html">Re: Character evolution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01190.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New topic: AI and NPCs</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01187.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01189"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01189"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01156" HREF="msg01156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 15:03 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01157" HREF="msg01157.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 15:27 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01159" HREF="msg01159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 16:17 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01187" HREF="msg01187.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 00:32 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01189" HREF="msg01189.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 13:51 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01197" HREF="msg01197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 21:46 GMT </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01191" HREF="msg01191.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mud Games</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 14:53 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01183" HREF="msg01183.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New topic: AI and NPCs</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 11 Sep 1997, 21:38 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01190" HREF="msg01190.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New topic: AI and NPCs</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 14:50 GMT </LI> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>