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<LI><em>From</em>: "Travis S. Casey" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
&gt; In &lt;<A HREF="msg01157.html">341c17c9.72728107#relay,mnsinc.com</A>&gt;, on 09/08/97 
&gt;    at 08:28 AM, caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock) said:
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&gt; &gt;This assumes a formal joust. In actual combat, killing or hobbling
&gt; &gt;the mount is the grim and efficient method of unhorsing your
&gt; &gt;opponent. It is still, however, met with some distaste by most.
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&gt; The historical ledgers of peasantry being paid to go out and hamstring
&gt; or gut the opponents horses during a battle would seem to contradict
&gt; this, as would the heavy chest armours for chargers.
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&gt; Against an agile opponent armed with a knife, a heavy armed and
&gt; armoured knight on horseback has little chance.

Little chance of what?  Killing the knife-wielder?  Possibly, if the
knife-wielder can keep a cool head (i.e., doesn't panic and try to run
away -- the horse can outrun him, and it's hard to dodge well while
running full-tilt).  I still wouldn't lay a bet against the
knight, though -- his horse is probably armored, so all he
really needs to do is run over his opponent a few times.  Surviving? 
I'd say the knight has a wonderful chance of surviving -- armor does not
limit your movement as much as most people think it does, and a good suit
of armor will give excellent protection even from a knife -- "chinks" in
plate armor normally had padding and chainmail under them.  Rapiers,
contrary to common myth, were not developed to use against plate-armored
knights.

Indeed, there's a story from France of a knight who fell off his horse,
hit his head on a rock, and was knocked unconscious.  His opponents
wanted to finish him off without going to the trouble of removing his
armor.  They tried a sword first, but there were no gaps in the armor
big enough to let it in.  Then they tried a dagger, but there were still
no gaps large enough.  They tried a wooden club, but it wouldn't dent
the armor.  Finally, they sent a peasant off to get them a woodcutter's
axe, and were able to bust him up like a lobster with it.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="01156" HREF="msg01156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mud Games</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 15:03 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01157" HREF="msg01157.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mud Games</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 15:27 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01159" HREF="msg01159.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mud Games</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 08 Sep 1997, 16:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01189" HREF="msg01189.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Mud Games</A></strong>, 
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