<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory --> <!--X-From-R13: @nguna Kbfcr <lbfcrNunjnvv.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 21:03:44 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.GSO.3.95q.970902104547.14483A-100000@uhunix2 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 34147de3.34214671#relay,mnsinc.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01030.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01032.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01026.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00994.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01031">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01031">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01031">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Nathan Yospe <<A HREF="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:03:22 -1000</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: :There are a lot of remarkable results, and a lot of spectacular :failures. A glance through the PDR will reveal that we know shockingly :little about how ANY of these drugs actually work. This disturbs me, and :draws a much closer parallel to witchcraft than I am comfortable with. Which might lead to some interesting mud concepts... mental illness and mystical treatment (driving out the demons) :I do have some very close friends who have been helped drastically by :antipsychotics, antidepressants, et cetera. I'm not saying the field :doesn't work; far from it. I'm saying that the field is not a panacea, :and that in fact there can be no such panacea. Sometimes it just isn't :effective. Sometimes it's effective by turning the patient into a :drooling idiot who is little more than a vegetable. And sometimes it's :effective enough to relieve major symptoms, but not quite effective :enough to allow the patient to lead a normal life. A friend's dad recently commited suicide under the influence of a (backfired) anti-depresent treatment. :I went to high school in Leesburg, at a boarding school for 'problem' :students. My major problem was that I was just plain uncontrollable and :socially inept (no doubt the result of my overly computerised life). :Some of my classmates and roommates had more serious problems, ranging :from simple animosity to alcoholism and drug addiction, with a :reasonably large complement of just plain nuts. I've stayed in touch :with several of them. Some are now full-blown schizophrenics. And :believe me, having four schizophrenics at the same dinner table is a :memorable experience... especially if you're at a restaurant. Speaking as a legal schizophrenic... well, I suppose I'm not typical. :I think a writer is in many ways both psychologist and psychiatrist, and :at the very least must have a strong foundation in human social :interaction if he intends to have any success. While science fiction :allows you to escape some degree of that, you never wholly get away from :it. From the psychiatry angle, a writer could be seen as 'prescribing' :his books for various ailments such as boredom and itellectual ennui. ;) Science fiction, relative to most popular fiction, amplifies the required psychological and sociological knowledge - you are writing as much about the society and people as the technology. :Yes, and if I remember properly I was a proponent of bullets to the head :rather than wasting obscene amounts of time, effort, and money on trying :to change them. Some of them can be changed. Most of them, I believe, :cannot. I think there's a culture these days that builds up a belief :that therapy is good for *everyone*. Well, yes, everyone can benefit :from therapy when they are READY for it. But it's that readiness which :is elusive, and difficult to quantify. The therapist-patient :relationship is founded on trust. Any professional can tell you that. I don't believe in the victim-offender. There is a choice, no matter what has happened to you. And if you disagree, I've got myself as proof. -- "You? We can't take you," said the Dean, glaring at the Librarian. "You don't know a thing about guerilla warfare." - Reaper Man, Nathan F. Yospe Registered Looney by Terry Pratchett yospe#hawaii,edu <A HREF="http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe">http://www2.hawaii.edu/~yospe</A> Meow </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00993" HREF="msg00993.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> caliban#darklock,com (Caliban Tiresias Darklock)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01030.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character evolution</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01032.html">GURPS v Hero v RuneQuest</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01026.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00994.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01031"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01031"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Virtual World Theory</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00985" HREF="msg00985.html">Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 01:37 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00987" HREF="msg00987.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 02:07 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00993" HREF="msg00993.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 03:21 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01026" HREF="msg01026.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 20:41 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01031" HREF="msg01031.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 21:03 GMT </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00994" HREF="msg00994.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 04:01 GMT </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00991" HREF="msg00991.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual World Theory</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 02:44 GMT </LI> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00995" HREF="msg00995.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Re:)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 05:07 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sat 30 Aug 1997, 22:30 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>