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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:20:34 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Jeff Kesselman wrote:
> At 02:08 AM 8/25/97 PST8PDT, Matt wrote:
> >Yeah - although I like the implied take on chaos/order in Moorcock's
> >fiction writings. I would sum up my view of it as being "Chaos must be bad
> >because it is the absence of order, and anarchaical, Order must
> >be bad, because it is the total absense of order, and is far too
> >confining. Therefore balance is the only true 'good' state."
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> Me too. In fact oen of myu favorite long standing campaings ran on thsi
> principle (and basicly on m,orcock's metphysics.) My own world design for
> my MUD private MUD project was similar. In both cases though thats a level
> the players dont foetn, if ever, really deal with directly.
Right - ideally the players would (or characters I should say) be dimly
aware of this balance in some cases, and rarely be introduced directly to
it (usually after whatever happened was over?).
> >Having two views of alignment should be sufficient for roleplay - what the
> >character thinks of his/herself, and what the rest of the world (globally
> >and locally) think of him/her.
>
> I like these, but they are really "reputation" and "self-image", not
> alignment in the traditional sense.
Yup. Or 'How others think you are aligned' and 'How you think you are
aligned' - its a fairly moot difference (although you can quibble over the
meaning of 'alignment' in this context for ages).
> >
> >For Caffeine, I will probably require a third view (the actual innate
> >'alignment', taken from the point of view of the 'creator' of the world),
> >for a few things - notably magic which modulates based on where you stand.
>
> Heh. So thsi becoems efectively YOUR opinion fo the PCs. Personbally I
> fidn that perfrectly reasonable, Im an old believer in DMIG.
Essentially, yes!
Regards,
-Matt Chatterley
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01175" HREF="msg01175.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01193" HREF="msg01193.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 12 Sep 1997, 19:00 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01210" HREF="msg01210.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00730" HREF="msg00730.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 26 Aug 1997, 03:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00739" HREF="msg00739.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 26 Aug 1997, 06:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00741" HREF="msg00741.html">[MUD-Dev] Alignment & Introductions</A></strong>,
lapsos <a href="mailto:root#TDK,earthlink.net">root#TDK,earthlink.net</a>, Tue 26 Aug 1997, 07:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01064" HREF="msg01064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Alignment & Introductions</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00757" HREF="msg00757.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Character evolution</A></strong>,
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