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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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Having said i hate alignment, now let me tell you where I HAVE seen it work
well...

Thats wher there is both a game mechanic and world-metaphysical reason for
it.  Which is to say, when it quantifies soemthing that really needs
quantificatiov and has ssytemr esults.,  An excellt example is the Hooror
doman in the m,ulti-genre system TORG.  In this "world" all chaarcters are
rated by their level of corruption/purity.  The world tries to corrupt
characters and the mreo corrupt they become the mreo control they lose.

A simialr thign exists in teh AD&amp;D Ravenloft envrionment.  ironivly, though
its  expressed  in terms of the AD&amp;D good/evil scale it really IS a simialr
corruption/purity measure.

In Call of Cthulhu one could consider oens sanity level a form of alignment
scale.

In general the slide to depravity is an important theme in horor and msot
good horror games embody thsi in a mechanic.

On a slightly different vein I believ ehte game Bushiod had an "honor"
ranking.  TORG's Fantasy world Aysle has a Valor kind of ranking.

Alignment for ist own sake or just to pigeon hole charcters I personalyl
find primitive if nto outright pointless. Where it IS useful is where it is
well inetgrated into the game in order to embody a principle organizing
structure of the campaign or world.

JK
Jeff Kesselman
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00772" HREF="msg00772.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Re: Character evolution</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 16:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00695" HREF="msg00695.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Re: Character evolution</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 19:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00708" HREF="msg00708.html">Alignment</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 03:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00711" HREF="msg00711.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 16:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00715" HREF="msg00715.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 02:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00723" HREF="msg00723.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 26 Aug 1997, 00:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00716" HREF="msg00716.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 02:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00717" HREF="msg00717.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  Alignment</A></strong>, 
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