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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
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On 19 Aug 97 at 21:59, clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
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> It illuminates for me one of the base differences in game design
> approach:
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> Build something interesting and users will appear to do something
> intersting with it.
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> vs:
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> Build something to play /this/ sort of game and represent *that*
> sort of environment.
>
> On the face of it I suspect that this is implicit to a __designed__ RP
> game (ie game designed for RP as vs GOP), and more specifically to an
> RP game where a particular form of RP or an RP in a pre-stated
> milleau/character is desired.
>
Yes, but with a very large grumble...
<grumble on>
FORCING characters to SUBMIT to your environment is anathema to good
roleplaying. This is very commercial, white-washed, family-oriented
politically correct entertainment, and has little or nothing to do
with roleplaying.
<grumble off>
> On my end I'm a lot more interested in building what I think might be
> an interesting system, and then seeing what people will do with it,
> including what social forms, good or bad (however I might judge), they
> might build. In a way its all a grand experiment in providing a soil
> and variety of fertilisers, and then standing back to see what
> attempts to grow there.
The goals are identical with the exception of building an interesting
"world" and see how players cope/deal with it as opposed to building
a "system" and seeing how players cope/deal with it.
JL
Jon A. Lambert
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00683" HREF="msg00683.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 00:53 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00691" HREF="msg00691.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 20 Aug 1997, 05:19 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00751" HREF="msg00751.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 00:31 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 27 Aug 1997, 05:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00709" HREF="msg00709.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 06:27 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00713" HREF="msg00713.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 02:15 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00719" HREF="msg00719.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 25 Aug 1997, 06:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01118" HREF="msg01118.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>,
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