<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: --> <!--X-From-R13: Xrss Yrffryzna <wrssxNgrargjbex.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:23:43 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 3.0.2.32.19970821122620.00b4d3f0#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199708211617.QAA100582#out2,ibm.net --> <!--X-Reference: 33FC7352.FA22963F#darklock,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00704.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00706.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00839.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00722.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00705">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00705">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00705">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re:</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>, <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:26:20 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> At 10:05 AM 8/21/97 PST8PDT, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: >mud-dev#null,net wrote: >> >> Here are some random thoughts/questions on the matter. Would liasons >> be possible between PCs only or combination of PC/NPC? > >I just want to make one comment here. > >Do NOT under ANY circumstances build rape code into your game. It's just >not an amusing option, and can have some serious repercussions for >survivors of such incidents. Yeah Ild second this, though soem of our ful lblodded societal-simualtor folks on the lsit might disagree. The rpoblem with thsi subject is that its NOT treated with ther espect it deserves in american society. Rape, either actual or threatened, is used all the damn time in movies and such for lti9tle mreo then titlation value. As the husband of survivor who is all to well aware of JUSt how common it actually IS in our society, I have walked otu of mroe then one movie in disgust because of this, and ahd ones I did stay for partially ruined by it. We are talking a VERY personal invasion of privacy on a psychological level, and roleplay by definitio nis a psychologoical exercise. Having said this I wil lmake mention that in pen and paper I have actually played through being a rape survivior, and I learned a rgeat deal from it BUT I already udnerstood the absics of what it meant, the judge was acutally a rape recovery counselor for a time, AND we discussed the plot element and agrreed to see it through BEFORE we implemented it. Yo udon't have the same kind of controla judge ahs in an automated game with players interracting with each other. jk Jeff Kesselman Snr. 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