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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 14 Aug 97 13:53:15 -0700</LI>
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In <<A HREF="msg00514.html">Pine.LNX.3.96.970813072110.140C-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>>, on
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at 06:40 PM, Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> said:
>On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
>> at 11:39 AM, Martin Keegan <martin#cam,sri.com> said:
>> >On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
>> >> Precisely. Just what is there for a player to do once he's made Wiz
>> >> on a standard MUD other than thumb twiddle or torture the local
>> >> inhabitants?
>>
>> >Nothing. For that player, the game is over. That is NOT to say that
>> >it's badly designed, nor that this isn't a huge problem. I spot an
>> >assumed orthodoxy here.
>>
>> Yes, much the like assumed orthodoxy that MUD users want to play
>> heros. Nightmare provides a perfect case in point to demonstrate the
>> fallacy of that one.
>Yes. Mind you - I haven't really found a perfectly amicable solution
>to this. Some (well, one that I can name) muds allow a choice at a
>certain level between wizard and hero - continuing to play ad
>nauseum, and becoming a creator. There are inherent problems in this
>(you can get creators who are not necessarily good with
>responsibility - although determined in their play). I personally
>plan to try and make higher levels more interesting (this is where
>strategy and wargame elements will come into play much more), and
>take wizards through application outside the game.
Bartle proposed a simple solution as a side-effect of perma-death. If
you have incompetants approaching situations of power they are
unsuited to, either kill them, or ensure they are killed.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00045" HREF="msg00045.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 03 Jul 1997, 01:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00355" HREF="msg00355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 01:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 21:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 06:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00569" HREF="msg00569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 20:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00538" HREF="msg00538.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 02:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00576" HREF="msg00576.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01039" HREF="msg01039.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Tue 02 Sep 1997, 23:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00520" HREF="msg00520.html">Evolution of The Mud Tree</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 19:34 GMT
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